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Old 11-09-2013, 02:54 PM   #11
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. . . so I have to drain VERY slow and takes about an hour to collect 30 litres of wort.
I'd go with this. When batch sparging, you stir like crazy to get the sugars in suspension and then drain before they can settle or cling to the grain. For a slow sparge, fly sparging has the advantage of constantly rinsing the grain bed with fresh liquor, but you lose that when batch sparging. Your manifold should work as good as a braid if you change the hole or slot configuration to allows for a faster lauter.
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:04 PM   #12
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. . . the braid would get knocked around during stirring and was a pain to clean.
I'm now using a manifold type system in a larger tun, but here's the braid from my old MLT. I still use this for smaller batches. The copper core keeps it from getting knocked around and cleaning is as simple as back flushing it through the ball valve with a hose. I never have to take it off.

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A problem I found with my manifold was that although I cut lost of very small slots, I had a fair amount of grain matter even after 2 gallons of vorlaufing. Never The whole husk but certainly lots of particles which I never got with a braid

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Bazooka screen for me. Never a stuck mash or sparge.

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I used the braid from a 3/4" x 12" water heater supply line. It is much heavier than most of the ones I see pictured. It is hose clamped on the outside of the fitting inside the tun. There is no barb so the entire passage through the valve is 1/2" I can beat the crap out of it while stirring - no problems and will drain in less than 5 minutes.

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Ok, So far I have hit ny pre boil gravity for the first time in 3 batches so fingers crossed.
I have been able to drain much faster with the braid.
I know that when dealing with homebrew it is compulsory to drink homebrew, so here is my cream ale I'm enjoying

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Ok, So far I have hit ny pre boil gravity for the first time in 3 batches so fingers crossed.
I have been able to drain much faster with the braid.
I know that when dealing with homebrew it is compulsory to drink homebrew, so here is my cream ale I'm enjoying
Cool glass. Is that a metal base there?

I made a copper manifold for my tun, I made a figure-8 design, with an angled middle cross bar (the spigot for my cooler is at the front)
I cut probably a good hundred plus slots in in, and I can get pretty clear after about 3 qts of vorlaufing.
I don't know my exact efficiency, but I hit my expected gravity pretty much spot on each time I've used it. I even entered data into one of the brew calcuators after the fact and got within .001 of my actual results.
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That's just a Coors pint glass that I robbed while on holiday lol.
I'm at a loss with the braid vs manifold thing, I finished my brew and was practically bang to my predicted SG.I think I will stick to my braids for now as it would appear it has helped for God knows what reason lol. I think I'm going to be busy this weekend re-brewing

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