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Old 09-22-2009, 06:36 PM   #11
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I am doing one too. I did a similar recipe without the coconut just to make sure I had a good porter. Now I am ready to do the coconut porter but I am wondering what a good substitute for Fuggles would be. I think I have Amarillo, Centennial, Halertau, Columbus, Magnum and Symcoe. I'm not sure which would be best for porter. I only used 2 oz. Fuggles last time in a 5 gallon batch.


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Old 07-10-2010, 03:51 PM   #12
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I'm not sure either. I got the idea of boiling it from what Maui Brewing does, as they put some in the boil. How's the coconut taste in yours? And also, can you taste the rum? I first thought about doing the 2 lbs toasted coconut in the secondary and making a coconut extract with a fifth of Bacardi 151 and shredded coconut and then pouring that into my bottling bucket. But I don't want to overdo the coconut taste, plus that raises the cost considerably.
I am wondering on what results people have had with there coocnut porter recipes.
as after just getting back from Maui and having there coconut porter i would like to try and make some for my self.

After Listening to the podcast it was my understanding that Maui brewery used some in the mash, some in a hop back and then some in the serving tanks. not any in the boil. he also said that for a 20 beer barrel batch they used 200 Llbs of shredded coconut toasted which roughly works out to be just over 1.5 # for 5 gallons

so I am thinking maybe a good robust porter recipe with the addition of .5# toasted coconut in the mash Tun and then 1# in the secondary
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Old 07-10-2010, 04:57 PM   #13
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my first AG batch was a coconut stout, and the coconut DOMINATES. I made a 3 gallon batch and if brewed again I would add some oats and cut back on the amount of coconut used.

For 3 gallons:
7lbs 2 row
.5lb black patent
.25lb chocolate
.25 roasted barley
1lb 3oz toasted coconut

mashed at 152*F for one hour, then sparged with 170*F water to collect ~3.5 gallons total going into the boil.

60min .75oz Saaz @6.8%AA
30min .5oz Perle @7.7%AA
5min .5lb Coconut

I used 3 whole coconuts, went at them with the business end of a hammer, then tossed the meat into a blender and toasted it in the oven until the outsides were browned.

The mouthfeel came out to be pretty thin and the head retention is non-existant...I'm figuring that this was from the coconut oil. Adding oats and cutting back on the amount of coconut would probably be a good way to go with this beer.
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Old 07-12-2010, 03:27 PM   #14
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I recently made a coconut porter too. I bottled it about....HEY! Three weeks ago today. After I get home from work I will taste a bottle. Anyway, I have only tasted one partial bottle after about 1 week. The coconut flavor was pretty much non existent at that point and it was over-carbonated.

I'll post the recipe below, but be easy because it was one of my first brews. I went pretty overboard on the caramel and chocolate malts. But, I love a sweet beer so it might be great for me. It also has the potential to counteract any sourness that the coconut might impart, as indicated by one of the posters above.

I'll update this tonight when I get home to let you know how it was.



BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Basement Cat Porter
Brewer: David
Asst Brewer:
Style: Robust Porter
TYPE: Extract
Taste: (NA)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 7.30 gal
Estimated OG: 1.055 SG
Estimated Color: 34.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 25.1 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: - %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
6 lbs DME Dark Traditional (Briess) (8.0 SRM) Dry Extract 74.99 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 12.51 %
1 lbs Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
1.00 oz Williamette [3.40 %] (60 min) Hops 12.6 IBU
0.75 oz Goldings, East Kent [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 12.5 IBU
0.25 oz Goldings, East Kent [4.50 %] (0 min) (AroHops -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 0.0 days) Misc
1 Pkgs Nottingham Yeast (Lallemand #-) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: None
Total Grain Weight: 10.00 lb
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Steep grains as desired (30-60 minutes)


Notes:
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Added 6 g of baking soda to steeping water. Steeped in 2 gallons of water
Added 14 oz of lightly toasted, sweetened, shredded coconut to fermenter. Left for 8 days.
Primed with 3.75 oz of light brown sugar
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Some things to note about adding coconut to beer:
1. It looks disgustingly like some kind of infection when it starts to ferment. Something like a white layer with crusty bubbles and chunks.

2. There will be a disturbing thick layer of oil on the top of your beer after the sugars have been leached from the coconut. I don't have the capabilities to cold crash, but since coconut oil is a saturated fat and solid at slightly cooler than room temperatures, putting it in the fridge for a few days SHOULD allow you to rack from underneath the layer of oil.

3. All that coconut in the fermenter WILL clog up your siphon. I had to suck on the end of the hose and stick it back in the bottling bucket to get it going again, and even that BARELY worked. In the future I would wrap the racking cane in some sort of mesh bag to counteract all the coconut sediment. I ended up losing about 1 gallon to all of the coconut shreds.

3.A. I would recommend priming with less sugar than you think that you will need. The reason for this is that I calculated my priming sugar for 5 gallons at 2.0 volumes. I ended up with about 3.8 gallons; as a result I have a porter that is carbonated at 2.6 volumes or so. It might be worth it to undershoot, since you will lose some beer to the coconut. This is especially true if you pour in your priming sugar first and then siphon your beer into the bucket.

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In mine I don't bother putting coconut in the boil. Just toasted shredded coconut in secondary and it comes out with a strong, creamy coconut flavor and aroma. I use 10oz for a 5 gallon batch.
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the head retention is non-existant...I'm figuring that this was from the coconut oil.
I thought that might happen.

Good to see you went ahead with it though, nice to see results. I still like the idea of a Coconut Porter.
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Okay, so I just drank the first one a minute ago. The beer is ridiculously carbonated. I could only pour half of a bottle into a pint glass because the head filled it the rest of the way. No issues with head retention.

The reason for that might be because there is also no coconut flavor in this porter, sort of a disappointment. I would recommend anyone in the future to leave it on the coconut for longer or use a larger amount.
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So I am in the process of making this beer. Here is the recipe:

Partial Mash:
2 lb Pale malt
1.25 lb Chocolate malt
0.5 lb Crystal 80
0.5 lb Flaked oats
6 lb NB gold LME
Hops:
0.33 oz Columbus 60min
0.33 oz Chinook 60min
0.33 oz Nugget 60min
0.6 oz Palisade 10min

And I am using 14 oz. of toasted sweetened coconut.

Used a packet of Nottingham and Windsor. It has been fermenting for 4 weeks. Should I just throw the coconut in the primary or rack into a secondary and how long should I leave the coconut in contact with the beer? I am also going to throw in a couple of cinnamon sticks to make it a cocomon porter.



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