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09-19-2008, 09:23 PM
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Kwanesum Chinook Illahee
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Cereal Mash Explained??
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Can someone give me a good guide to Cereal Mashing? I want to try a clone brew that includes some unmalted grains. I've tried googling and searching here but what I'm getting is "try a cereal mash" or "you don't need a cereal mash". Nothing really explaining it step by step.
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09-19-2008, 09:44 PM
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From BYO:
"In a cereal mash you begin by heating a mash of your adjunct and small amount of your 6-row malt to 158–160 °F (70–71 °C) and holding there for about 5 minutes. Then you heat the mixture to a boil, boil for 30 minutes, and return the cereal mash to the main mash. The bulk of your barley malt can be mashed in at 122 °F (50 °C), then heated to 140 °F
(60 °C). When the boiled cereal mash is added to the main mash, the temperature moves into the saccharification range. Cereal mashing requires a nearly constant stirring of the mash. Using flaked maize is much simpler."
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09-20-2008, 06:57 PM
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Kwanesum Chinook Illahee
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Thanks for that from BYO, but I'm still not 100% clear on everything.
Is there a ration of 6 row to adjunct grains? Do I replace the 2 row I would normally use with 6 row? I'd be using a cooler MLT, so would I had the "cereal mash" to my other grains on the MLT, then add hot enough water to get it the saccharification range?
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09-21-2008, 02:47 AM
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Depending on the amount of adjuncts, a pound or two of 6-row should do it. If you don't hold the cereal mash in 150s for 20-30 minutes for full conversion make sure you have enough enzymes in the main mash to convert the starches.
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04-14-2009, 08:28 PM
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will this process work for raw wheat as well?
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04-14-2009, 08:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwaterbrewer
will this process work for raw wheat as well?
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Works for all raw grain.
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04-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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I'm still not sure when one needs to use it. Can someone explain? You don't have to do it with all oats right? Not flaked oats, yes? What if I used quick oats? With wheat? I have no clue what I'm doing when it comes to wheat.
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04-14-2009, 09:27 PM
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I think you add them all right in the mash from what I understand and for the full mash. That is what I have been doing but what do I know, I have been doing all grain for less than one year now. I add shredded wheat cereal to my mash sometimes and it comes out great.
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11-24-2009, 01:49 PM
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I've also been looking for a good explanation of how and why. Here's a pretty good one I found:
Cereal Mash at HopWild
The only thing I'd ignore is the "why you shouldn't bother" part. But that's just my nature. Anytime anyone says "just buy..." I try to figure out how to do it myself. I have a 50lb bag of raw barley, and a pound or so will be cereal mashed into my next beer. Hopefully it will improve the body. So I say go for it!
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11-24-2009, 01:59 PM
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I, too, am a little confused. Why not cook the cereal, then just include 6-row in the main mash?
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