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americanweirdo 09-01-2008 12:58 PM

Can I use a single infusion mash for this recipe?
 
Honey Porter

7# American Vienna
1# Crystal 90
1# Black Patent
1# Chocolate
3# Clover honey (60 min. boil)
1/2 oz. Chinook (60 min.)
1/2 oz. Chinook (5 min.)

My concern is the Vienna. Any thoughts on a single infusion on this one?

This would be my third AG, so I'm still new to it all.

Thanks in advance!

Glibbidy 09-01-2008 01:11 PM

Single infusion will work just fine.

david_42 09-01-2008 01:35 PM

Vienna will work as a base malt in a single infusion, but ...

That's a lot of BP for a porter. I rarely use more the 4 ounces. My favorite porter recipe (Rogue clone) only uses 2 ounces and 6 ounces of chocolate.

Blender 09-01-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_42 (Post 828096)
That's a lot of BP for a porter. I rarely use more the 4 ounces. My favorite porter recipe (Rogue clone) only uses 2 ounces and 6 ounces of chocolate.

Yeah, that is a lot. Let us know how that works out because it is strong stuff.

americanweirdo 09-01-2008 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_42 (Post 828096)
That's a lot of BP for a porter. I rarely use more the 4 ounces. My favorite porter recipe (Rogue clone) only uses 2 ounces and 6 ounces of chocolate.

Can I adjust the amounts, with negligible effects to the overall recipe?

Is BP high in tannins? I've read about large quantities being very astringent. What about Chocolate?

Blender 09-01-2008 02:18 PM

Black patent can taste like charcoal if it is to strong. I would use no more than .5 and probably less in my brew.

You won't get honey flavor if you boil it for 60 minutes.

americanweirdo 09-01-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blender (Post 828147)
You won't get honey flavor if you boil it for 60 minutes.

well, now this recipe seems all sorts of screwed up. how long would you suggest for the honey? i made a honey porter extract batch a while back and only used a pound of honey (60 min. boil) and it was one of the best beers i've made. didn't notice a honey flavor, but that didn't distract from the awesomeness of the beer.

Blender 09-01-2008 02:55 PM

There is a Honey Pale ale recipe from Morebeer and 3 lbs.of honey is added in the last 15 minutes. Folks also use honey malt at mashing time for honey flavor.

King of Cascade 09-01-2008 05:25 PM

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Folks also use honey malt at mashing time for honey flavor
I know a lot of people say they get a honey flavor from honey malt but I've use Honey malt several times and never get honey flavor even with quantities as high as 10%.

Add the honey (not malt) at flame out to avoid scorching.


+1 on too much black patent. If you use less but grind it up fine (almost power) you will get more color and flavor with less astringency

americanweirdo 09-01-2008 08:14 PM

How does this revision sound?

7# American Vienna
2# Crystal 90
2 oz. Black Patent
12 oz. Chocolate
3# Clover honey (end of boil)
1/2 oz. Chinook (60 min.)
1/2 oz. Chinook (5 min.)

I added a pound of crystal and adjusted the BP, chocolate and honey. Suggestions?


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