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11-13-2012, 02:09 AM
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I am sure this beer is already brewed and drank, but I wanted to add that if you are looking for a kolsch representation in the United States to see what the yeaSt are capable of, you can drop into a BJs restaurant - their kolsch is more/less stylistically correct in my opinion. I have been to cologne for the record 
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11-13-2012, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dragonlor20
I am sure this beer is already brewed and drank, but I wanted to add that if you are looking for a kolsch representation in the United States to see what the yeaSt are capable of, you can drop into a BJs restaurant - their kolsch is more/less stylistically correct in my opinion. I have been to cologne for the record 
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Thanks for the heads up
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11-13-2012, 01:04 PM
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I want a vienna lager style but don't want to use a lager yeast, because I can't control the ferment to 50 in my chamber.. but I have no problems to get it at 60 in my chamber... That is why I thought of a kolsch yeast? Does the kolsch yeast impart a very unique flavor or is it just a low temp clean flavor ale yeast.
I like the suggestions of Northern Brewer/Vienna
do you think the Kolsch yeast is a bad choice?
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It's too late, but if you were dead set on a hybrid yeast I would have recommended Wyeast 2112 - California Common. It ferments well up to 65 F (Really keep it at or below 60 F during fermentation) and finishes very clear. Probably a bit more forgiving then the kolsch yeast you used.
http://www.wyeastlab.com/com_b_yeaststrain_detail.cfm?ID=131
The kolsch style yeast can be more temperamental, doesn't clear well, and probably is not the best for an all Vienna malt recipe.
http://www.wyeastlab.com/com_b_yeaststrain.cfm
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11-13-2012, 07:08 PM
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The more yeasts I try, the more I come to appreciate good ol' 2565. I've made 3 lagers so far, and although its probably my technique, each of the 4 batches made with WY2565 turned out better. I made an Alt with it and it was one of my best brews to date. I see no issues with the Kolsch yeast outside of the low flocculation. Gelatin or Isinglass works wonders for it. I highly recommend people try this yeast out if they haven't yet.
Also curious how the Vienna SMaSH went? I did a 2-row w/ Cent that turned out okay. The Vienna sounds more interesting to me.
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11-14-2012, 01:25 AM
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Can't speak highly enough for the SF steam yeast. It IS a lager yeast, don't let anyone talk you out of that...but it produces great lagers and anything you want clear and clean. I usually ferment in the mid 50s with it but it works great at 60, too. Swamp cooler should easily keep you in its range
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Open log Fermenting and gas-can secondary?? I am planning my next brew right now!!
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11-14-2012, 01:26 AM
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In fact, I use it interchangeably with clean ale yeasts for specialty beers. Made a pumpkin lager that turned out phenomenal
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Open log Fermenting and gas-can secondary?? I am planning my next brew right now!!
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11-14-2012, 01:30 AM
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The more yeasts I try, the more I come to appreciate good ol' 2565. I've made 3 lagers so far, and although its probably my technique, each of the 4 batches made with WY2565 turned out better. I made an Alt with it and it was one of my best brews to date. I see no issues with the Kolsch yeast outside of the low flocculation. Gelatin or Isinglass works wonders for it. I highly recommend people try this yeast out if they haven't yet.
Also curious how the Vienna SMaSH went? I did a 2-row w/ Cent that turned out okay. The Vienna sounds more interesting to me.
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Turned out better than I expected..... at 4 weeks in the keg it was ok .... I kind of forgot about it but at 8 weeks in the keg it was frigging very very tasty. Very nice smooth vinish... easy drinking..
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11-14-2012, 01:32 AM
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best kolsch i've ever done was a smash of 9.5 pilsner, 1 oz perle, and 2565
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11-14-2012, 01:33 PM
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I should have said, though, that I don't know that I'd use the SF Steam yeast on a Kolsch as it won't give any of the fruity esters that a Kolsch yeast will give.
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11-14-2012, 03:08 PM
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His recipe was all Vienna malt and used Northern Brewer hops...it's not a Kolsch. Any fruity esters derived from the yeast will likely be dominated by the piney Northern brewer hops. It's probably a good tasting beer but I don't think the Kolsch yeast would really add much to this recipe.
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