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Rick500 12-01-2009 06:36 AM

Brewed Oskar Blues Gordon Clone today
I don't have a webcam, so no webcast, but I figured I'd post a photo log.

The recipe is Can You Brew It's clone recipe, with a few adjustments due to different AA%, etc.:

16.80 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 79.97 %
1.68 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 8.00 %
1.26 lb Carastan (30.0 SRM) Grain 5.99 %
1.26 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 5.99 %
0.01 lb Chocolate Malt (250.0 SRM) Grain 0.05 %
18.20 gm Northern Brewer [8.90 %] (80 min) Hops 19.9 IBU
67.10 gm Amarillo [7.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
110.60 gm Columbus [14.00 %] (10 min) Hops 38.0 IBU
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) [Starter 1800 ml] Yeast-Ale

(6 gallons)

Getting ready to brew:

21 pounds of grain from BMW:

80 minute hops on the right, and a gigantic 10 minute charge on the left:

185F strike water in the mash tun, waiting to get down to about 164F:

Mashing in (152F):


Nice clear first runnings (1.092):

First sparge (180F):

Second runnings:


Rick500 12-01-2009 06:36 AM

Second + third runnings (left); first runnings (right):

In the keggle (8.5 gallons):

Pre-boil hydro sample (1.071):


Racking to fermenter:

Full fermenter:

1.8 liters of 1056 starter ready to pitch:

...I was aiming for an FG of 1.082 at 65% efficiency, but BMW's optimal crush got me 72% for 1.091. So I guess I'll call it 111% Gordon. :)

philrose 12-01-2009 07:13 AM

Nice work on the photos- interested to see the end product.


CharlosCarlies 12-01-2009 02:26 PM

Looks great! I know I brag on them a lot, but gotta love BMW!

Just me being critical and maybe I missed something, but are you pulling your first runnings and just letting it sit while you sparge? I've done the same thing before and obviously everything turned out fine, but I like to start heating the first runnings ASAP to prevent any further conversion and make the time to boil shorter. Maybe this isn't possible for you?

Rick500 12-01-2009 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by CharlosCarlies (Post 1710216)
I like to start heating the first runnings ASAP to prevent any further conversion and make the time to boil shorter. Maybe this isn't possible for you?

Yeah, I only have one burner and one heating vessel, so I have to let the first runnings sit while I keep the sparge water heated through the first and second batch sparges.

Come to think of it, I guess I could start heating the first runnings on the stove until the keggle is free. Or if I had another cooler for an HLT, I could heat the sparge water earlier and just store it until it was needed, to free up the keggle.

maskednegator 12-01-2009 05:06 PM

Add your sparge water in one shot, instead of two. Heat sparge water during mash, drain first runnings into bucket, sparge, rack first runnings into boil kettle.

Rick500 12-01-2009 10:57 PM

Wow, crazy fermentation. That 1056 was ready to eat!


Rick500 03-08-2010 12:32 AM

Just to finish out the thread -- here's the finished product. Gordon on the left and clone on the right. (They're both clearer than the pic makes them look. Lack of decent head is attributable to my clumsy pouring.)


It turned out to be a really nice beer.

I was shooting for an OG of 1.082 but hit 1.091. Fermented out to 1.015, so it's 10% abv Gordon. :)

Taste is really *really* smooth for a 10% abv beer. I think it'll mellow out a little more in the next few weeks, but it's very drinkable now.

I wouldn't call it cloned, but I'm putting mine up against a 10 month old can of Gordon.

I get more malt and a little more caramel sweetness from the Gordon than from mine, and more aroma from the real thing, but I think if you handed me one or the other without the side-by-side comparison, I'd believe either of them was Gordon.

I'll definitely brew this one again. I'll make some tweaks, though, to increase the aroma a bit. I think the increased sweetness in the Gordon over the clone may be due to the higher alcohol content of the clone, so I'll try to get closer to the 1.082 OG.

philrose 03-08-2010 12:46 AM

Nice! I love the hop character in that beer. Might have to put it on the list. Looks delicious btw.

BA_from_GA 06-08-2010 03:02 AM

fantastic thread! great write up rick500... this is going to be one of my next brews for sure. just finished a can of the Gordon, and it's great!

any suggestsions for a substitution for the carastan? I've got everything else already, (except subbing crystal 40 for a combo of 60 and 15 since i have them in bulk) and i'd like to stick to stuff i can get locally from BMW.

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