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Old 08-22-2010, 08:54 PM   #11
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Or maybe If I were to do the above recipe BIAB, I could always do half the 2 row and then dump that out and then do the other half of the 2 row?



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Old 08-22-2010, 08:57 PM   #12
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Hmm, I've never really read up on that at all.

You could do try doing that and making a concentrated wort and then diluting to proper volume/starting gravity once you take the grain out and are about to boil. I'd imagine you'd have less than ideal efficiency, but RDWHAHB comes into play I'm sure.

Edit: What are you even trying to make? Looks like an American IPA, but why so much grain? Are you trying to make a really high ABV? What type of pre-boil and post-boil volume are you trying to do?



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Old 08-22-2010, 09:15 PM   #13
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Well, the example recipe is a three floyds dreadnaught clone. It is a clone of this beer:

http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dreadnaught-imperial-ipa/8933/

I just randomly pulled that recipe off the internet. Maybe I don't really need that much grain. There has to be a way to clone that beer with less grain? Not really sure as I have never done all grain or BIAB.

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Old 08-22-2010, 09:19 PM   #14
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Well, no you cannot clone that beer without using the same amount of grain. Basic guide to beer: imperial-anything = ****loads of grain

You could scale it down and make a smaller batch, however. With 8 gallon kettle you can't BIAB that recipe because you won't have enough room. For instance, I BIAB a 5gallon pot and never go over a 7lb grain bill. That leads me to doing 2.5-3gal batches.

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Old 08-22-2010, 09:59 PM   #15
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I BIAB with two 7.5 gallon pots - mash in one, sparge in the second, then add the two together for the boil.

The most grain my "mash" pot can handle is about 13 lbs. While that is mashing, I bring my sparge water to temp and then dunk/sparge. Its a really easy way to go all-grain.

If you only have one pot and want to do that big of a grain bill - I recommend a partial mash. BIAB about 1/2 of the grain and supplement with extract to hit your desired gravity. One of the online recipe formulators can get you there pretty easy.

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Thanks wvlheel! I'll see what I can come up with.

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Eon,
Definitely do the BIAB. It's so easy you'll love it. But start with a different recipe and do it all in your single 8 gallon pot until you get the hang of it or feel like buying more stuff. Like wvlheel said, 13 lbs of grain or so will work, but that's a fairly big beer too. Start with something around 10-11 lbs and you'll be happy.

I am getting 85+% efficiency every single time so you don't need tons of grain.

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Old 08-24-2010, 03:50 PM   #18
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I tried this with an 11 pound grainbill, and you definitley need a bigger pot. I had water spilling over the side.




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Ok, so let me see if I can get this straight. I'll use the recipe below as an example:

16.25# 2-row
1.5# victory (called for 1.25# melanoidin)
0.25# cara-pils (none called for)

hop schedule(whole leaf)
0.75 oz Simcoe(11.2%)-60min (called for 0.62 oz @13%)
0.67 oz Nugget(12.5%)-60min (called for 0.53 oz Warrior@15%)
0.75 oz Centennial(10.1%)-45min
0.75 oz Centennial(10.1%)-30min
1.50 oz Cascade(6.0%)-15min
1.50 oz Cascade - dry(pellet)

yeast
WLP001 (called for WLP002 or Wyeast 1968)

mash
159ºF for 60 min

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Ok, so I would take a HUGE grain bag to fit into my say 8 gallon brew pot. Next, I would fill the pot with water and bring it to 159F? Then I would pour all three of these grains into the bag and let them sit for 60 minutes at 159 degrees?

After that pull the bag out(with grains in it), bring it to a boil and then proceed as normal by boiling for 60 min, adding hops, etc...

does that sound right?


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