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Old 03-14-2013, 09:57 PM   #11
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I use whole hops and a false bottom in the kettle. Works fine unless I forget to put the false bottom in, but wouldn't work if I used pellet hops.

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Old 04-09-2013, 05:46 AM   #12
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How important is it to reduce unwanted material being transferred from the kettle into the Fermentation vessel?

Is there any evidence that the final product will be clearer or taste any difference if transfer of this material is avoided?

Will it not just settle out in the Primary especially if cold crashed?

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Old 04-09-2013, 02:48 PM   #13
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In response to el_caro:

I see some of the more senior brewers in the board say they just dump the whiole pot in. I really need to just try this. I suspect you get the same beer but more if it. More trub too but that settles and then you are left with more liquid. I don't like diluting my beers and I typically leave .5 gallon or more of sludge in my brew pot and my final bottle count is a little short.i could account for this but why not get all you can out of it first. If that makes any sense.

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Old 04-09-2013, 02:54 PM   #14
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With the new hop strainer I only get break material. Just dump it all into the primary. Brews have been great so far.

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Old 06-07-2013, 04:07 PM   #15
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So a False bottom in my Keggle won't help if I use pellet hops. Right now I am using a 5 gallon paint strainer set up to strain and contain my hops during the boil. Contains most of the hop material but I still get a lot of break material using wirlflock.

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Old 06-07-2013, 04:51 PM   #16
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I see some of the more senior brewers in the board say they just dump the whiole pot in. I really need to just try this. I suspect you get the same beer but more if it. More trub too but that settles and then you are left with more liquid. I don't like diluting my beers and I typically leave .5 gallon or more of sludge in my brew pot and my final bottle count is a little short.i could account for this but why not get all you can out of it first. If that makes any sense.
I'm not a senior brewer by any stretch, but I have literally just dumped everything in the kettle - hops, break material and all - and have gotten clear beer in the end.
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Old 10-13-2013, 08:05 PM   #17
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Last time I used whole hops with pellets my intake kept clogging (side wall dip tube) and I had a hell of a time trying to use my pump to whirlpool as I usually do.

The pellet/whole hop combo seems to be a nightmare. I have a a few lbs of whole hops I need to get rid of as they are getting old and I was thinking of adding them to my existing DIPA recipe. Figured I'd get any bonus bitterness/flavour from them. I need to figure out how to prevent a clog up by tomorrow! This is going to be a massive beer.

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Old 10-13-2013, 08:37 PM   #18
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I too used to lose a lot of my wort due to not filtering out the trub and hot/cold break. I tried the paint strainer suggestion, and it works great. I put one filter on top of another in a metal strainer, and pour through the 4 layers of strainer. A little bit of "silt" gets through, but everything that has settled and flocked out pretty much gets caught in the strainers. Ever since I started using Irish Moss, I have been getting better results. The strainers start to clog and the trub is another layer of fitration for the trub. My pot does have not a spigot yet, so that is why I pour, but I don't lose the usual 1/2 gallon like I used to.

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Old 10-14-2013, 12:54 AM   #19
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With the new hop strainer I only get break material. Just dump it all into the primary. Brews have been great so far.
+1 to this technique. I use to stress over getting only the clearest wort into to my fermenter but after a few brew sessions whilst having a few too many I've found the f it technique works just as well. Ive found that clear beer is more about a good hot break and a rapid chill than the trub being transfered ymmv though. I do use a hop spider on any brew with over 3 ounces of hops though, not so much for clarity but because I can hang and drain the spider to minimize my hop losses.
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Old 10-14-2013, 01:01 AM   #20
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To be honest adding a ball valve to my BK was a wonderful investment.
I have a 1/2 inch ball valve and a small amount of tubing when opened it flows into a sanitized paint strainer bag into my fermenting bucket. I keeps tons of stuff out. Required when i make IPAs but useful anytime really. It also helps aeration nicely on the way out, but i also use bottled oxygen.

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