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Old 06-14-2006, 05:58 AM   #1
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Default Before I attempt my first mini mash......

Heres a quick look at the recipe. Promash gave me 2.03 gallons for the Saccharification Rest, and I think Im going to use 3 gallons for the sparge. When batch sparging, I can add 1/2 the water, drain, then add the other half right? And Im not quite certain where to go with the mash out procedure.

Heh, I haven't been this nervous since my first brew. Speaking of, Im going to go have one and relax. Any pointers would really be appreciated. RichBrewer thanks again for the ideas!!


Mini Mash Nut Brown

A ProMash Recipe Report

BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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10-C American Ale, American Brown Ale

Min OG: 1.045 Max OG: 1.060
Min IBU: 20 Max IBU: 48
Min Clr: 18 Max Clr: 35 Color in SRM, Lovibond

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 5.00 Wort Size (Gal): 5.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 9.25
Anticipated OG: 1.060 Plato: 14.78
Anticipated SRM: 24.9
Anticipated IBU: 37.8
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar

% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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48.6 4.50 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.036 2
32.4 3.00 lbs. Muntons DME - Amber England 1.046 17
2.7 0.25 lbs. Cara-Pils Dextrine Malt 1.033 2
5.4 0.50 lbs. Brown Malt Great Britain 1.032 70
5.4 0.50 lbs. Chocolate Malt America 1.029 350
2.7 0.25 lbs. Special Roast Malt America 1.033 40
2.7 0.25 lbs. Crystal 90L America 1.033 90

Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.


Hops

Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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1.00 oz. Brewer's Gold Whole 7.80 33.2 60 min.
1.00 oz. Willamette Whole 4.00 4.5 15 min.
1.00 oz. Willamette Whole 4.00 0.0 0 min.


Yeast
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White Labs WLP013 London Ale


Mash Schedule
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Mash Type: Single Step

Grain Lbs: 6.25
Water Qts: 8.13 - Before Additional Infusions
Water Gal: 2.03 - Before Additional Infusions

Qts Water Per Lbs Grain: 1.30 - Before Additional Infusions

Saccharification Rest Temp : 155 Time: 60
Mash-out Rest Temp : 0 Time: 0
Sparge Temp : 170 Time: 15


Total Mash Volume Gal: 2.53 - Dough-In Infusion Only

All temperature measurements are degrees Fahrenheit.
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Looks like you got it all figured out....Good luck. Ya you can add half and drain and add the other half, just try to keep your Ph down and dont sparge below 1.012 or so. Good Luck!!!
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I like to drain the first wort, add 1/2 the sparge at 170F (which will function as the mash out), stir gently & drain, then do the rest.

Increase your sparge water to 4 gallons. The first wort will be a lot less than 2 gallons, since the grain will absorb some. I generally measure the amount of first wort I get and adjust the sparge.
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A good rule of thumb is that the grain will absorb .1 gallons of liquid per pound of grain.
So you should expect your first sparge batch to produce about .625 gallons less wort that the total amount of water that has gone into the tun before draining.

So if you use 2 gallons strike water, .625 gallons of that will be absorbed by the grain, so you need to add about a pint of hot water (.125 gal) before the first sprage batch in order to collect 1.5 gal on the first batch.

I agree that 3 total gallons of sparge runoff is not alot for this amount of grain. Is 3 gals the larget amount your brewpot can handle? I'd up it to 3.5 or 4 if you can boil that amount of wort. If not, just RDWWHAHB.
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Oh no, this being my first run I guess im just being a bit conservative. I have a 9 gallon brewpot and 5 gallon tun so volume isnt an issue.

I inputed 1.3 quarts for pound of grains into promash. it gave me 2.03 gallons. Ill gladly go more if thats needed. Also, ProMash didn't have much for batch sparging. I kind of guessed on the 3 gallons worth of sparge water.

Also, I figured if I preheat the tun I wont loose much heat do the cooling of the tun, so If I strike with 170* water it should bring the mash down to 155 correct?
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I'm just curious: if you have a 9 gallon pot and a 5 gallon tun, why not just brew it all grain?

A five gallon tun can generally mash up to about 12 lbs of grain, which is enough to do AG batches up to gravities of about 1.065 or so. Other than a little time saved bringing a smaller quantity of wort to boil, the process is going to be about the same.

I mean, do whatever you want, of course. I'm just not sure why you'd choose a PM based on your equipment.
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THis was originally going to be an extract recipe. I allready had all the DME so I figured this would be a good run to test out the mash tun. I picked up enough 2 row to replace one of hte bags of DME. If all goes well, Ill be doing mostly AG from now on.

That and Im still in denial for just being a big puss, and jumping in to AG right now.
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Oh no, this being my first run I guess im just being a bit conservative. I have a 9 gallon brewpot and 5 gallon tun so volume isnt an issue.

I inputed 1.3 quarts for pound of grains into promash. it gave me 2.03 gallons. Ill gladly go more if thats needed. Also, ProMash didn't have much for batch sparging. I kind of guessed on the 3 gallons worth of sparge water.

Also, I figured if I preheat the tun I wont loose much heat do the cooling of the tun, so If I strike with 170* water it should bring the mash down to 155 correct?
Here's some great info on how to setup for a batch sparge using ProMash!!!

http://www.brewboard.com/index.php?showtopic=40175

hope that helps,

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Ok, I'm mashed in!!!!

Stirke water temp was 172. And the grains took it down to 156 where its been holding steady for the past 20 minutes. My whole house smells like a coffee shop. [homervoice]mmmmm.....chocolate[/homervoice]

With this setup i have 6.25 pounds of grains in there right now, and could easily go AG without a problem. Well yea, theres a problem. I need everything to be higher so gravity can do its thing. I had to put on my mechanics gloves to lift and pour the kettle into the tun. Well, baby steps.....for now


I'll keep you guys posted
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well i missed my OG by just a tad. i was shooting for 1.060 and got 1.058. Oh well no biggie. Everything went fine. I think Im going to hold off on doing another until I build the tun with a better valve, and get a second kettle to heat the water with.

It smells fantastic right now. 25 minutes left in the boil. Time to go have a homebrew and relax.
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