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Old 03-01-2008, 01:43 PM   #11
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I too have made a band aid beer. Never used any bleach in anything. Just Idaphore. It got infected some how and never got better. Left that crap in the keg for at least 3 months and it got worse in my opinion. It's to bad too, i had tried my hand a making a Phin and Matts extrodinary ale and used a crap load o styrians in there. Wish I had those back!

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Old 03-06-2008, 01:14 AM   #12
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That would be a food safe motorcycle radiator would it?
I would think a wort chiller would be much cheaper
yeah, I'll run down to the combination motorcycle repair shop and resturant supply house =) he he he .
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Old 03-06-2008, 01:16 AM   #13
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A week in the bottle is way to early to determine final taste. Your saying 3 weeks from boil till drinking?? That's what hell of a green beer.
well, now I'm out of the country for 2 weeks, so I'll have another go at it when I get back. It'll be about a month old when I get back I suppose...worth another sip anyway
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Old 05-14-2013, 11:58 PM   #14
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I too have a "band aid" ale on tap, my 3rd one as a fairly new brewer. Trying to pin it down seems everyone talks about Phenol factor and the water being used. I only use bottle spring water, clean with starsan but have just read that i should rinse AFTER cleaning. I thought that starsan was a no rinse and the last thing that should touch the vessel.

Anyway sharing my 2 cents as i search for an answer of my own. Have a cool Switchback Ale in my keg cant bring myself to dump a 3rd on (in past few months). I would like to know..is is BAD for you. I can probably drink through it in the interest of "committing to the brew" but don't want to poison myself.

The brew is perfect in every other way, color, head , clarity. Just that dreaded "band aid" smell and taste that has caused me to dump 3 times now. It KILLS me i hate it.

New to the forum on a quest for saving a good brew.

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Old 05-15-2013, 12:29 AM   #15
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Don't forget chloramines from city tap water as another source of band-aid.

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Old 05-15-2013, 03:04 AM   #16
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. . . clean with starsan but have just read that i should rinse AFTER cleaning. I thought that starsan was a no rinse and the last thing that should touch the vessel.
Starsan is a sanitizer, not a cleaner, clean with hot water and PBW or Oxyclean and rinse thoroughly. Sanitize with starsan and do NOT rinse.

I'm not sure how this would contribute to the chlorophenol/bandaid flavor though.
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Old 05-15-2013, 09:57 PM   #17
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This "band aid" flavor is a also a by-product of fermentation. Belgian yeasts and such will produce.

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Old 05-16-2013, 12:18 AM   #18
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Naplesbrew, I see you have revived an old thread.

I had several early batches with off-flavors. My thoughts about your post:

- If you have already tasted it, and didn't die, then you will probably live.
- It sounds like you have probably eliminated water as the culprit - as long as the bottled water you used was NOT distilled (yeast need minerals to thrive).
- Try using a good dry yeast like Safale US-05 (you might use 2 pkg until you have nailed down your problem).
- Make sure your fermentation temperature is as stable as possible, and optimal for your yeast. For the Safale, you might try for 68 - 72 degrees. You can put your carboy or bucket in a water bath & add ice packs as needed to maintain a stable temperature.
- Use a known good recipe.

For me, the solution was changing the yeast. I would be interested in knowing what your find out once you get a good brew.

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Old 05-16-2013, 01:28 PM   #19
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Thanks for the information. I have used distilled bottled water in the past but now use only bottled spring water. Temps i have controlled in a keezer that i made pretty solid at 68 degrees or whatever i set it at.

This problem occurred with several different types of yeast (all ales) so figure i could rule that out but could be wrong. First was a Magic Hat Clone, the next was an Orange something right after the Magic Hat. At that time i was experimenting with cleaning with diluted bleach and after reading several articles on the band-aid flavor topic, thought i had pinned it down to left over bleach residue in my vessels.

That said I dumped cleaning with anything and just use hot water followed by starsan. I have PBX cleaner also but now paranoid about using any cleaner thinking this is my culprit.

I have read mixed input regarding starsan...some people say that starsan should be the last thing that touches the vessel. Other say, as a fix to the band-aid thing to rinse AFTER starsan with boiled water. Any thoughts there?

My local supplier suggested that this could be a Chlorimine issue. Although i use bottled water only, when i clean i use my house tap water through a hose (no more hose after he told me that). Anyway 2 thoughts here. One he said to add a tiny pinch of potassium metabisulfate to my brewing water to react out any Chloromine.

Also to add a pinch to my starsan water to rule out any that is introduced by my cleaning water. I dont know much about potassium metabisulfate except what he told me you think it is safe to add to my brew water or do i need to since i use only bottled?

I am pretty thorough about my cleaning and environment but i could be missing something maybe the hose water since it is the last thing that touches my vessel. All i know is i am tired of dumping my good beer that i worked so hard to make so on a mission to figure this out.

Currently i am hanging on to my Switchback which is kegged already in hopes that after a week or so it will settle down. I will let you know.

Oh you mentioned adding double dry yeast. Would that help with a Chloromine contamination you think?
Any and all comments welcome.
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Do not rinse Starsan. That is not the culprit and that defeats the purpose of starsan. If you are concerned with chloramines, drop 1/4 of a campden tablet (which is potassium metabisulfate) into your 5 gallon batch at the start. Skip the bleach.

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