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Old 12-05-2007, 09:55 PM   #1
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I have an artesian well right down the street from my house, and used the water for my first AG, EdWort's Haus Pale. I am going to do a Stout this weekend, and was wondering if based on the water makeup below, is there anything I should do to the water? I've read that many people use 5.2, seems like a standard.



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Calcium: 146.0 ppm
Sulfate: 180.0 ppm Magnesium: 59.0 ppm
Chloride: 152.0 ppm Sodium: 51.0 ppm Bicarbonate: 0.0 ppm PH: 6.9 Water Additions Needed Gypsum: 0.0 gm
Baking Soda: 0.0 gm Salt: 0.0 gm
Chalk: 0.0 gm Epsom Salt: 0.0 gm Calcium Chloride: 0.0 gm Notes:
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That water has no bicarbonate? really? you sure? that would mean that your water would be best for the lightest beer posible. Like a pilsner only beer. your high sulfate means that a very hoppy beer is best.

hoppy and light are about the opposite of what you want for a porter. Does your tap water come from the same source? If it doesnt, then maybe you want to use that. Would you drink a glass of your tap water? taste good? can you detect any chlorine tastes? If it is enjoyable as a glass of water, use it for your beer.

Honestly though, your just starting, so don't worry about water chemistry. If you want to start worrying about more variables then mash pH is probably the place to start. The easiest way to do this is with 5.2 pH. just add a tablespoon to your mash.

If you want to learn about water chemistry and how it affects beers:

http://www.howtobrew.com/section3/chapter15-1.html

And check if you really have no bicarbonates.

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How did you like that Haus Pale? If it was good, try out the stout. Just about every sort of brewing water has significant carbonate content, though, as that brings out color and malty characteristics. I'm not sure how add that to your water without going overboard on the other minerals.

I agree that you might want to check on that profile. It seems odd that there are no bicarbonates at all. Even Pilsen has a trace.


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Old 12-06-2007, 08:57 PM   #4
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Here's the website that I got this from. The whole water elements thing confuses me, so I could have read some of this wrong.

http://www.slcgov.com/utilities/ud_8_south_artesian_well.htm

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Your bicarbonate is 346 ppm. this makes your water very hard and suited to the darkest of beers. that said, i would ignore it unless you are having taste problems with your beer. you may want to get an RO system, or distilled water and dilute the well water. is this the same water as your tap?

read the link i posted, it will help after you read it about 5 times. play with the spreadsheet on the following page to understand how your beer is affected by your water.

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Old 12-08-2007, 03:50 AM   #6
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i just looked at the slc water system report (consumer confidence report) and your city water would be a much better starting point for making beer as long as it tastes good.

if you have a well then you should have your water tested at ward labs if you are really concerned. google them.

are you having problems with the taste of your beer? if not, dont bother with this chemistry stuff yet.

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No, I'm not having taste problems. I just didn't want to start I liked the idea of the artesian well because I wouldn't have to worry about the chlorine and such, and it's free. The tap water at my house tastes terrible, so I don't really even want to mess with it.

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Ok, how does the well water taste? theres nothing wrong with trying a batch with that. Its just pretty hard.

does your water taste any better using a brita filter?

As a rule, if it tastes good as water, it will taste good as beer. Give the well water a try.

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Yeah, I use a Brita to filter. It tastes fine then. I've already made a couple of beers with the artesian well. One Smoked Porter, and EdWort's Haus Pale.

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Old 12-08-2007, 04:42 PM   #10
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stick with what works then. theres nothing you could possibly add to that water. i would still use 5.2 though.

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