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Old 08-09-2012, 07:38 PM   #1
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Default Arrogant Bastard Clone Options

Hey guys, so I am looking to make an AB clone and I found two recipes that look like winners based on comments and reviews. I do want to make a 10 gallon batch, so I will make necessary conversions and additions if needed. However I was wondering out of these two, which one looks like something that I can get closest to the original with? Any suggestions?

1. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

2. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

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Old 08-09-2012, 07:47 PM   #2
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I think I did that right

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I did the first one. It was very good. I ended up dry hopping it with 1oz of Chinook because the hops were a little subdued.

I wouldn't say it was exact. Mine was a little lighter in color and not nearly as malty as I was expecting. Could have just been my technique.

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Ok cool. Thank you for the input. Would you dry hop more if you did it again? As for the malt complexity, maybe add more special B or aromatic to it?

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Yes - I'd dry hop again. Based on what I've read the special B is the key, but I'm no expert. I just really like AB.

I have another batch in primary now, but it won't be ready for several weeks. I didn't change the recipe and I am dry hopping again. If it comes out maltier this time I can blame my technique the first time around. Although I had a badly stuck sparge this time, so I'm not holding out much hope.

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I'm about to keg a 2.5 gallon test batch and mine is closer to the second one. Just 2 row and special B.
I dry hopped but someone told me Stone doesn't dry hop it. Too bad, I like it that way.
I used all Chinook. Personally, I wasn't aiming for a true clone, just something close.

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I'm about to keg a 2.5 gallon test batch and mine is closer to the second one. Just 2 row and special B.
I dry hopped but someone told me Stone doesn't dry hop it. Too bad, I like it that way.
I used all Chinook. Personally, I wasn't aiming for a true clone, just something close.
Same here... although i wouldn't mind it one bit if it came out identical to the real thing. Great beer. I am leaning more towards the second one myself as well. I may try to throw in a # or so of some aromatic just to try it out. I am brewing on Sunday so I'm hoping to lock down my recipe on Saturday when I hit the store.
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Don't use the gypsum in the second recipe! You may not need it, and it's not good to use if you don't need it.

My AB clone is just 13# two row and 1.5 pound of crystal 120L, so my recipe is closer to the second. It's really good, but I didn't make the first recipe to compare it to so I can't say if it's better or not.

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Ok I was questioning the gypsum.... Stone is pretty much against adjuncts anyhoo. What are all of your hop schedules like when cloning the AB?

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I've made this. Dead ringer to AB in the bottle. (Doesn't taste like on tap...I wish it did.)

5Gallons

90% 2-row (13# 3oz)
10% Special B (1# 7oz)

Mash 148 for 90 minutes

Try to hit 90 ibu with all chinook.

.9oz of chinook (11.8%) at 85, 45, 15, 0 minutes.

WLP002 yeast. Many use 007 but that finishes too dry. By using the 002 you can get your OG of 1.072 down to the FG of 1.018 (which is what AB finishes out too.) This also lets you hit the abv.

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