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Old 05-16-2012, 02:22 PM   #1
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Hey everyone,

I just got my Lagering setup complete and have a brew planned for this weekend.

BoHo Pils

11 lbs Pilsner Malt
.75 lbs Cara-Pils
60 min 1.25 oz Saaz 4.4%
30 min 0.75 oz Saaz 4.4%
10 min 1.00 oz Saaz 4.4%
0.0 min 1.0 oz Saaz 4.4%
2 packets Saflager W-34/70

Est OG: 1.059
Est FG: 1.014
IBU: 34.5

I am thinking about doing a step mash with rests at 110, 140, 150, 168?
I have RO water that comes out at 1 TDS should I add any brewing salts?
What fermentation schedule should I use with this Yeast as I have no experience with it.

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Make sure you pitch enough yeast and pitch the yeast when your wort is at fermentation temps. Avoid pitching hot.

If you pitch enough yeast it will take off just fine.

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Straight RO water is fine for a BoPils, but some do add some calcium sulfate.

For the steps, I assume you're decocting? I normally do a different schedule, with a higher temperature protease rest (131), a mid-range saccrification rest, and then decoct to mash out, although I've had good results with a Hochkurz double decoction with pilsers as well.

I've never done an acid rest, or need a to break up beta-glucanase so I've never done a rest as low at 110. That's a bit unusual, I think. If you want to do a short protein rest (if that's the point of that rest), I'd go a bit higher.

I've never used that yeast strain so I don't know which temperatures to suggest, sorry!

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Are you planning on a decoction or just step mashing? Personally I would toss in the decoction to get to your step mashes if you plan on making all the effort for all those steps.

In reality I would simplify a bit. I did a BoPils and did a single infusion with a 22minute boiled mash out decoction that turned out great. I used all distilled water for my attempt.

Most people rec something like this for fermentation schedule:

1. cool wort to 45F then pitch yeast
2. raise wort up to 50-55F and ferment
3. at the end of fermentation do a diacytel rest.
Lager for 1-2 months minimum.

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Thanks for the good info. I am a BIAB guy so decoction really isn't an option.

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Thanks for the good info. I am a BIAB guy so decoction really isn't an option.
They why the steps, particularly the 110 degree one?

If you really want to step mash, and the malt is well modified, you could do a short higher temperature protein rest and then a mid-range saccrification rest. I wouldn't do such that mash schedule on a pilsner anyway, but definitely not in an infusion mash.
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I was reading up on lagering and I read I think on palmers website that that was a Pilsen step mash schedule. So what schedule would you suggest? 131, 150, 168. If I can figure out how pull a decoction I would do it only to raise for 150 to 168. I am a little worried about the ph of my mash with pure RO. I typically run about 5.7 - 5.8 on a pale ale with no adjustments, that is why i was going to do an acid rest.

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Patience. Everything takes longer with lagers.

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Thanks for the good info. I am a BIAB guy so decoction really isn't an option.
Why would BIAB hold you back from doing a decoction? Open the bag, pull your decoction and boil and return to the mash.

If you have a stove and a decent sized pot you should be ok. Obviously an extra burner or similar works too.
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Straight RO water is fine for a BoPils, but some do add some calcium sulfate.
Are you sure you mean calcium sulfate and not calcium chloride?

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