Advertise Here
Main · BrewSpace · Recipes · Wiki · Groups · Clubs · Gallery · Reviews · Video · Blogs · Store

Memorial Day False Bottom Free ShippingBottling wand for Perlick 525/75, AKA Bowie BottlerUltra Portable Kits - $74.95, Kegconnection.com
Go Back   Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2009, 08:23 PM   #1
Junior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3
Default Any reason NOT to use steam?

This last weekend I brewed an all-grain pale ale (the Tongue Splitter ingredient kit from northern brewer). It was my second all grain, and I used a 23qt pressure cooker and copper manifold to raise the mash temp.

Picasa Web Albums - Christopher - Beer Stuff

It was INCREDIBLY easy to hit my target temps, in fact the whole process was shockingly easy. I didn't spend very much money for my setup, and I feel like I can do just about any all-grain beer I want now.

Why don't more people do this? It seems perfect, you have no worry about scorching the grains, and I was able to raise the temp for mash out from 154 to 171 in .. I think 5 minutes? (I don't have my brew notes in front of me at the moment...)

I'm curious to hear other thoughts and experiences around using steam for brewing. Flyguy, Yuri and S.Coates(I think?) were the only people I'd seen talking much about this method. This seems like the perfect setup (and was easy to use on my stove top no less!), so why does it seem like an unusual approach?

-Christopher



Last edited by aedocw; 02-05-2009 at 11:45 PM. Reason: (fixing two names)
aedocw is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2009, 08:49 PM   #2
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tri-Cities, WA
Posts: 1,298
Default

It's on my to-do list. I'll probably wait till I find another pressure cooker, I don't want to mess with the canner I use and my wife wouldn't be too happy if I messed with her smaller cooker
Bokonon is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 12:53 AM   #3
Beer me babe
 
Malticulous's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: St. George Utah
Posts: 3,813
Default

Infusions are easy and I have been doing a lot of decotions lately. I don't see any reason to use steam.
__________________
What's brewing

Quote:
Originally Posted by mashweasel
Its swimming upstream to teach people actual facts. People hear one thing from certain people that then it doesn't matter whats true or not.
Malticulous is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 01:52 AM   #4
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 587
Default

I have used Flyguy's setup for a while. I have had a lot of success with this method as well.
noisy123 is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 02:04 AM   #5
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: ☁Scappoose, OR☂
Posts: 291
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bokonon View Post
It's on my to-do list. I'll probably wait till I find another pressure cooker, I don't want to mess with the canner I use and my wife wouldn't be too happy if I messed with her smaller cooker

+1. I definately want to, but need a pressure cooker.
__________________
Beer, happy Produce of our Isle/Can sinewy Strength impart,
And wearied with Fatigue and Toil/Can cheer each manly Heart.
Labour and Art upheld by Thee/Successfully advance,
We quaff Thy balmy Juice with Glee/And Water leave to France.
Genius of Health, thy grateful Taste/Rivals the Cup of Jove,
And warms each English generous Breast/With Liberty and Love!
(Rev James Townley, 1751)
lordbeermestrength is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 02:18 AM   #6
Senior Member
 
joety's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Germantown Wisconsin
Posts: 1,362
Default

Ok, I looked at the pictures and still have no idea what the process is. Is this some sort of step mash?
__________________
Conical 1 - Belgian Stout
Conical 2 - Empty
Carboys - American Original Pale Ale

Secondaries - Empty
Kegged: Resurrection Milk Stout, House IPA, Strong Golden Tripel Summer Ale,Through a Mild Darkly, Schwarzbier, Gulden Draak, Alpha King, EdWort's Haus Pale, BLC
Bottled: Oaked Bourbon Porter
Planned: Kolsch II
Now Open: My new 10 gallon Kal inspired RIMS brewery
joety is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 05:54 AM   #7
Grouchy Old Fart
 
Bernie Brewer's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Eldorado, WI
Posts: 7,545
Default

I built a steam system and hated it. It took fooorrreeeevvveerrr to get up to temps. I built a direct-fire stand instead.
__________________
I like to squeeze the nickle until the buffalo craps-mt rob

"Why don't we get drunk and screw?" Jimmy Buffett
Bernie Brewer is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 01:02 PM   #8
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 4,387
Default

Although if handled properly it's probably not that big of a deal but there is an extra, real hazard when dealing with steam...although I don't think it's enough to NOT use it.
__________________
Early brewers were primarily women, mostly because it was deemed a woman's job. Mesopotamian men, of some 3,800 years ago, were obviously complete assclowns and had yet to realize the pleasure of brewing beer.- Beer Advocate
SpanishCastleAle is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 02:28 PM   #9
gxm
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 549
Default

I don't see the need with my style of brewing.
Sometimes I do a mash out, sometimes I don't, I haven't seen it as making much difference in the end beer.
Only reason (other than safety concerns) I can see to not do it is it is less energy efficient, assuming you have have left over boiling water at the end. Which isn't a huge thing, I'm sure you could use that water with your sparge.
gxm is offline Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2009, 02:30 PM   #10
Senior Member
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Madison, WI
Posts: 587
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
I built a steam system and hated it. It took fooorrreeeevvveerrr to get up to temps. I built a direct-fire stand instead.
What size of brews are you doing BB? I could see my set-up (even with a 20 quart pressure cooker) not being able to do a 10 gallon batch.


noisy123 is offline Reply With Quote
Reply
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any reason not to get this? Morbo Bottling/Kegging 10 05-21-2009 01:57 AM
No reason at all Parker36 Drunken Ramblings and Mindless Mumbling 9 11-16-2008 01:20 PM
Any reason I can't use this for a go at AG? pbowler All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing 13 09-16-2006 12:55 PM
Need a reason? Cheesefood General Chit Chat 5 07-18-2006 01:38 PM





Contact Us - Top - Privacy - All times are GMT. The time now is 08:27 PM.
Copyright © Group Builder, Inc - All Rights Reserved
Craft Beer & Brewery Forum