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02-05-2009, 08:23 PM
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Any reason NOT to use steam?
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This last weekend I brewed an all-grain pale ale (the Tongue Splitter ingredient kit from northern brewer). It was my second all grain, and I used a 23qt pressure cooker and copper manifold to raise the mash temp.
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It was INCREDIBLY easy to hit my target temps, in fact the whole process was shockingly easy. I didn't spend very much money for my setup, and I feel like I can do just about any all-grain beer I want now.
Why don't more people do this? It seems perfect, you have no worry about scorching the grains, and I was able to raise the temp for mash out from 154 to 171 in .. I think 5 minutes? (I don't have my brew notes in front of me at the moment...)
I'm curious to hear other thoughts and experiences around using steam for brewing. Flyguy, Yuri and S.Coates(I think?) were the only people I'd seen talking much about this method. This seems like the perfect setup (and was easy to use on my stove top no less!), so why does it seem like an unusual approach?
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Last edited by aedocw; 02-05-2009 at 11:45 PM.
Reason: (fixing two names)
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02-05-2009, 08:49 PM
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It's on my to-do list. I'll probably wait till I find another pressure cooker, I don't want to mess with the canner I use and my wife wouldn't be too happy if I messed with her smaller cooker
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02-06-2009, 12:53 AM
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Infusions are easy and I have been doing a lot of decotions lately. I don't see any reason to use steam.
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02-06-2009, 01:52 AM
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I have used Flyguy's setup for a while. I have had a lot of success with this method as well.
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02-06-2009, 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bokonon
It's on my to-do list. I'll probably wait till I find another pressure cooker, I don't want to mess with the canner I use and my wife wouldn't be too happy if I messed with her smaller cooker
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+1. I definately want to, but need a pressure cooker.
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02-06-2009, 02:18 AM
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Ok, I looked at the pictures and still have no idea what the process is. Is this some sort of step mash?
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02-06-2009, 05:54 AM
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I built a steam system and hated it. It took fooorrreeeevvveerrr to get up to temps. I built a direct-fire stand instead.
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02-06-2009, 01:02 PM
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Although if handled properly it's probably not that big of a deal but there is an extra, real hazard when dealing with steam...although I don't think it's enough to NOT use it.
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02-06-2009, 02:28 PM
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I don't see the need with my style of brewing.
Sometimes I do a mash out, sometimes I don't, I haven't seen it as making much difference in the end beer.
Only reason (other than safety concerns) I can see to not do it is it is less energy efficient, assuming you have have left over boiling water at the end. Which isn't a huge thing, I'm sure you could use that water with your sparge.
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02-06-2009, 02:30 PM
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Location: Madison, WI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernie Brewer
I built a steam system and hated it. It took fooorrreeeevvveerrr to get up to temps. I built a direct-fire stand instead.
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What size of brews are you doing BB? I could see my set-up (even with a 20 quart pressure cooker) not being able to do a 10 gallon batch.
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