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Old 03-07-2007, 03:05 PM   #11
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Full boil is critical to all grain brewing. It is needed for numerous reasons, everything from hot break, to killing bacteria, hop utilization and the elimination of unwanted volitiles. To skip a boil is asking for cloudy, beer, with no hop character. Personally I don't think that sounds too tasty.

Always boil.

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Old 03-07-2007, 03:13 PM   #12
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...and the elimination of unwanted volitiles
DMS being one of the major ones...and the reason you don't want to boil with the lid on.
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Old 03-07-2007, 05:42 PM   #13
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And won't hop utilization be a big factor here too? You aren't going to get the hop character in a tea.

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Old 03-07-2007, 06:20 PM   #14
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This is kinda funny. You'd think that, after thousands of years of evolution, the practice of brewing beer would have ferreted out most of the unnecessary elements of brewing. People think way too much about how to shortcut this process; those thousands of years of evolution have certainly exposed most of the shortcuts and then tested them ad nauseum, technological equipment developments notwithstanding. Little things here and there save you time, but cutting out a huge step like boiling your wort is not something that would have gone unnoticed this long.

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:14 PM   #15
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There has been boiling of beer/wort for hundreds if not thousands of years. In my opinion You are asking for trouble. Lets not try and re-invent the wheel.

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:20 PM   #16
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Plus...you do away with a good full-kettle boil, you've just eliminated the fun part. If I can't do my wort-boil dance, I don't feel complete...

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:36 PM   #17
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This is kinda funny. You'd think that, after thousands of years of evolution, the practice of brewing beer would have ferreted out most of the unnecessary elements of brewing. People think way too much about how to shortcut this process; those thousands of years of evolution have certainly exposed most of the shortcuts and then tested them ad nauseum, technological equipment developments notwithstanding. Little things here and there save you time, but cutting out a huge step like boiling your wort is not something that would have gone unnoticed this long.

Blind adherence to rules versus questioning them. There are many things, thousands of years old, that get discussed, not because the answer is unclear, but because getting to the answer is enlightening.
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Blind adherence to rules versus questioning them. There are many things, thousands of years old, that get discussed, not because the answer is unclear, but because getting to the answer is enlightening.
I never said we should unquestioningly follow directions and tradition just for the sake of it. There's plenty of religious folk who can fill THAT role quite easily . Hell, I do a few things myself that aren't traditional practices, but save me time and/or effort. All I was saying was that it is sort of amusing to me when someone questions the necessity of one of, if not THE, biggest parts of the process. It's called "brewing", and they question the "brew" part. Like I said, don't get me wrong; I'm all for questioning traditional methodology in an attempt to evolve and improve the process...and I meant no disrespect whatsoever. But it wouldn't really be brewing with the "brew"...no-boil kits notwithstanding.
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Aren't no-boil kits child's play? No offense intended...

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Also to add to what everyone has said, AA's have to have something to hold on to, you can get away with small amounts in water but to hold anything really above 35-40 you need to have some gravity to the process. Besides balencing out the beer there is a reason for gravities being so high on IIPA's and such. To hold all the IBU's that a person would want in those beers you need a heck of alot of GU's.

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