Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway - Enter Now!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > All Grain & Partial Mash Brewing > All-Grain vs Extract Taste

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-13-2006, 03:06 PM   #1
bobbyc
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
bobbyc's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 150
Default All-Grain vs Extract Taste

My second batch of all-grain beer was kegged last week, and just last night we started drinking on it. I've noticed a very significant improvement since I've moved from extract to AG. As in, both AG batches I've finished have been awesome. Of the extract batches, some were good, some were OK.

Has anyone else seen such an improvement after their move to all-grain? Or is it just a coincidence that my 2 personal best beers have been all-grain?

Either way, hooray for homebrew!

__________________
bobbyc is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 03:17 PM   #2
docbee
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 81
Default

I just tasted my first AG over the weekend and it was very good. I have only done 2 extract kits and then moved to the AG and I did find a very noticeable improvement on the flavor and smoothness of the beer.

__________________
docbee is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 04:01 PM   #3
Desert_Sky
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Desert_Sky's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 4,090
Liked 35 Times on 32 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Yes, major improvement on taste and definitely color

__________________
Desert Sky Brewing Co.
Sierra Vista, AZ
Desert_Sky is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 04:11 PM   #4
the_bird
10th-Level Beer Nerd
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
the_bird's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Adams, MA
Posts: 20,490
Liked 361 Times on 297 Posts
Likes Given: 97

Default

Just cracked my first (mostly) AG batch this past weekend, a pale ale recipe from Papa Charlie. The taste was very good, although I'm not sure how much better than some of my later extract batches (too many variables at play, plus the pale ale is still a little young). The color, though, was a very nice, pale golden color that I would not have been able to get (at least very easily) with extract. It was a little hazy, but I'm 99% sure I forgot the Irish Moss. Very nice beer, if I do say so myself...

__________________
Come join Yankee Ingenuity!

"I'm kind of toasted. But I looked at my watch and it's only 6:30 so I can't stop drinking yet." - Yooper's Bob
"Brown eye finally recovered after the abuse it endured in Ptown last weekend, but it took almost a full week." - Paulie
"no, he just doesn't speak 'stupid'. i, however, am fluent...." - motobrewer
"... I'll go both ways." - Melana

That'll do, Pigley. That'll do.
the_bird is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 04:13 PM   #5
david_42
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
david_42's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Willamina & Oak Grove, Oregon, USA
Posts: 25,651
Liked 133 Times on 126 Posts

Default

I don't taste a big enough difference to drive me to all grain, all the time. I really like doing partials best. I suspect, on the dark side, purity is less important.

__________________

Remember one unassailable statistic, as explained by the late, great George Carlin: "Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!"

"I would like to die on Mars, just not on impact." Elon Musk

david_42 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 05:20 PM   #6
boo boo
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hearts's Delight, Newfoundland
Posts: 4,171
Liked 30 Times on 26 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

I find the flexability of being able to tailor my recipies to my tastes
easier doing AG then I did with extract. I do find the taste to be
better than any extract brew I have made. Comes from using
fresher ingredients in the brew, ie; fresh crushed grains. I did
have some remarkable extract brews however.

__________________

How do you BBQ an elephant....first you get your elephant....

boo boo is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-13-2006, 05:40 PM   #7
bobbyc
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
bobbyc's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Clemson, SC
Posts: 150
Default

Oh yeah, I had some good extract brews... but plenty of sub-par ones. Stuff I drank because it was my beer... but I wouldn't really have purchased again if it had been commercial. So far, 100% of my AG batches is stuff I can't stop drinking. I'm happy.

__________________
bobbyc is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2006, 12:39 AM   #8
Beer Snob
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Beer Snob's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Farmington
Posts: 2,034
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts

Default

I can't say that I taste any difference. There are a lot of reasons people go AG. A possible improvement on taste could certainly be one of the better ones. You reallly have to want to spend the time on the process. This is a ... I really love it... or a ... I really hate it... kinda thing.

There is certainly a diffeence in cost. Without a doubt....

__________________
Michael

"Don't worry, have a homebrew." ,"The "Bible"

Cherries in the wheat
Michael's Wheat
Beer Snob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2006, 01:21 AM   #9
Baron von BeeGee
Beer Bully
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Baron von BeeGee's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Barony of Fuquay-Varina, NC
Posts: 5,419
Liked 10 Times on 10 Posts

Default

Put me in the crowd that can't tell a difference. I haven't had any of my extract and AG batches side by side, but I've made good and both of both methods. I have a friend who brewed extract for a long time before moving to AG and his beers were at least as good as mine if not better.

I do brew AG because I like the process and enjoy it. But at the end of the day, I'd be really afraid to say I could pick out an extract beer in a blind taste test!

__________________
Baron von BeeGee is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-14-2006, 01:57 PM   #10
seansbrew
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Mesa AZ
Posts: 82
Default

A fine brewed extract batch is just as good if not better than most AG batches. ARe you crazy?...Not quite.
I have been brewing AG beer for 7 years and, through trial and error, I have perfected my craft. With the equipment I have I make damn good beer. I have worked really hard at attempting to conrtol the variables and would like to think I am doing a pretty good job.
I brewed extract beer for 3 years prior to switching to AG. I had more succesful batches of extract beer in that 3 years than I did with 3 years of AG. Why? Because one of the very important steps in brewing (the mash) has been done for you.
Most people think that just because you move to brewing AG beer that that you will automatically brew better beer. It actually gets harder to make good beer. I am not by any means trying to discourage anyone from moving on to AG, but what I am saying is this. If you think it will magically improve your beer your mistaken. I have seen many a brewer make the move to AG for the sake of making better beer. They went from making good beer to not so good beer. They didn't have a firm grasp on the mechanics of mashing, coupled with not understanding specialty grains and how to formulate recipes with them.
I usually encourage new brewers to stick with extract for few years. There is plenty to learn with just yeast, hops and specialty grains. When I moved onto AG beer I had a pretty well rounded understanding of what ingredients made a paticular style. Now all I had to do was learn to mash.

__________________

I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they get up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.

Primary: "I Scream for Cream Ale"
Secondary: empty
Aging: Pinot Noir
On Tap: empty
Next: prickly pear mead.

seansbrew is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Converting an all-grain recipe to extract+steeping grain Finn Extract Brewing 9 08-24-2010 11:55 PM
Taste of Extract vs. Taste of Beer? jbford Extract Brewing 5 10-21-2009 04:04 AM
Convert this: All Grain Recipe to Extract/Specialty Grain Doc Robinson Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 3 10-13-2009 07:03 PM
Conversion Equations: AG to Extract and vice versa || Grain, Extract, Hops, Boil size NitrouStang96 Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 2 02-01-2008 03:44 AM
Question about steeping grain in extract/grain brew grez Extract Brewing 16 09-18-2006 03:37 PM