HokieBrewer

Recipes 

I read lots of threads on here about the issues associated with a short boil time and all-grain brewing, but I haven't seen any concrete evidence that it creates problems. I put the theory to the test and hopbursted a Saison, only boiling it for 20 minutes. Below are my results.





Great clarity, no DMS, and a rocky head that won't quit.

Not trying to stir the pot, just wanted to put some actual results out there.

__________________
Now here's a little something that you might not like. My DJ's name is Mix Master Mike.

wilserbrewer

Vendor Ads 

Recipes 

Very interesting, thanks for the data. If I combine this w/ the 20 minute mash, and no chill, grinding the grain and heating strike water are half the brew day

__________________
wilserbrewer BIAB Bags for sale
Expert tailor and supplier of custom sized, top quality BIAB bags, hop bags and ratchet pulleys at reasonable pricing
http://biabbags.webs.com/


CORONA MILL BUCKET SYSTEM V. 2.0

stamandster

Recipes 

I was thinking of trying this for my Hop-Bursted Pale. Seems like a good idea now

Btw, what's the recipe :P

__________________
Undefined Brewing Company - Beer for Undefined Drinkers

HokieBrewer

Recipes 

Recipe can be found here: http://www.brewtoad.com/recipes/spelt-saison

__________________
Now here's a little something that you might not like. My DJ's name is Mix Master Mike.

slarkin712

Recipes 

This is interesting. Did you use any clarifying agents? I use Belgian pilsner malt in many of my recipes and it is known to produce a lot of hot break. I get hot break throughout most of a 60 minute boil, so much that I can scoop it out. Plus you have the whole DMS thing with Pilsner, which I've never encountered. What I'm getting at is have you tried this using pilsner malt?

HokieBrewer

Recipes 

Haven't tried it with Pilsner malt. I'm curious to see how that would turn out.

I added whirlfloc with 15 mins to go. No gelatin or isinglass or anything.

__________________
Now here's a little something that you might not like. My DJ's name is Mix Master Mike.

pjj2ba

Recipes 

Please keep us updated on how the beer ages. I ran into lactobacillus problems when I did a short boil.

__________________
On Tap: Pale Ale, CAP, Saison, Kolsch
Kegged and Aging/Lagering: Imperial Alt, CAP, GDR pils
Secondary:
Primary: Kolsch, OKZ (std Amer. lager), CZ pils
Brewing soon: Saison, IPA
Recently kicked : ( Bock, Baltic Porter, Ger. Pils, Lite IPA,
Pilsner Urquell Master Homebrewer (1st NYC 2011, 2nd NYC 2012)
P U crowns winners in its inaugural master HB competition

Simps

Recipes 

Very Cool. I was thinking about starting a thread dedicated to reducing the length of the brew day but this one already does the job. Now only one question remains...

There may be no defects but is it good enough to win an award?
(Trying this with something as malt focused as a bock would be a good test, and maybe a imperial stout or barleywine to test for stronger beers, and obviously the pilsner malt everyone is curious about)

If so you just saved everyone 40 minutes at least!

I'll have to try this out, combine it with the 20 minute mash and see how it does with a complex malt focused beer, unless someone beats me to it.

If you have access to a local beer club bring it in and see what a few judges think. Don't tell them about the short boil before the test.

HokieBrewer

Recipes 

Good comments by all. I will try to bottle a few off the keg and share with other homebrewers / judges I know and see what they think. I passed the "consumption by my friends test" with flying colors a few nights ago

Regarding award-winning, lacto, etc... The goal of this beer was to create an easy drinking "rustic" farmhouse beer. That's why I picked the Saison style for this test. If it develops a sour tinge or other flaws develop, well that just adds to the rustic-ness. If I was brewing a malt focused beer for competition, I'd stick to a standard length boil at this point until I get more experience with short boils...

__________________
Now here's a little something that you might not like. My DJ's name is Mix Master Mike.

wilserbrewer

Vendor Ads 

Recipes 

that could be said of many, many beers

__________________
wilserbrewer BIAB Bags for sale
Expert tailor and supplier of custom sized, top quality BIAB bags, hop bags and ratchet pulleys at reasonable pricing
http://biabbags.webs.com/


CORONA MILL BUCKET SYSTEM V. 2.0