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Old 02-25-2012, 09:20 PM   #1
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So today I set out to brew my first all grain batch and had everything planned out since thursday. Yeast starter was going great equipment was set up perfect(or so I thought) and all I needed was the grain and aqua and I was set. So everything is going perfect, Im hitting my temps and and then it happens. I mash out 209* per beersmith and wait 10. I open the valve to Vourlof and nothing happens. A slight trickle came out maybe 4-8 oz and it just stopped. I tried stirring I tried googleing my situation in efforts to save this batch and in the end I basically wasted 30$ I inspected my gear and I noticed the false bottom had grain clogging the elbow fittting. now arent these things supposed to keep most grain out of the space in between the dome and bottom of the MLT? What could have caused this? not stirring enough? mashing out to fast? I am pretty irritated but I at least want to come from this learning how not to have this happen again. Any ideas?

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Old 02-25-2012, 09:26 PM   #2
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What do you have for a false bottom and mash tun? Setting it up properly is critical, in my experience. It sounds like yours could have been set up incorrectly. If you've not done one before, and it didn't have solid instructions, then it's easy to have bad things happen.

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Do NOT throw this out!

Take the whole mash and put it in a bucket or two and fix the false bottom/braid/whatever.

That happened to me- I knocked off my tubing from the ballvalve with my mash paddle.

But we can fix this!

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Old 02-25-2012, 09:32 PM   #4
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Can you blow into the hose to dislodge the stuff in the elbow? You just have a stuck sparge. It'll happen to anyone. All is not lost bub.

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I second Yooper if your have converted the sugars and have wort this can be saved. Boiling will cure all sins. I disassembled and cleaned my mash tun before last brew and as I added all the water for the saccrification rest I see my steel braid sitting on a counter top. you can just take the whole thing and put it in your brew kettle/ bucket and fix the false bottom and the put it back in wait 15-20 min for things to settle and then lauter off the wort. Its a pain in the ass but most everyone equipment is non standard and need the kinks worked out of it.

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To late yooper. Its gone and Ill just have to take a second crack either later on or tommorow, I did just take a second look at my false bottom.... It was slightly un level on the bottom if that makes sense? I just bent it so as to have it lay flush on the bottom. could the little gap been the issue?

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If you have too you can rack the wort to another container fix problem then pour back in. Don't panic you can save it!!!!! I have faith it really wants to be beer you just have to help it along a little.

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Well **** looks like i made a huge mistake tossing it

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The wort I did taste was so good too

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Well **** looks like i made a huge mistake tossing it
Yep. Stuck mashes and/or sparges happen all the time.

Sometimes it's just a clump of grain, so the first thing to do is blow into the output and often that will clear it. If not, you just need to pour the mash into a bucket/cooler/container, and fix what's wrong. I've knocked off the tube from the false bottom to the diptube, and others have had braids collapse. Fix the issue, and pour the mash back in. Vorlauf and drain. It's sort of a pain, but it happens all the time.

Well, let's troubleshoot your issue now. Put it back together and use water and see how it goes. If your false bottom is collapsing, that could be the issue.
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