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Old 08-24-2010, 02:41 PM   #1
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I assume your first piece of equipment to purchase when converting from PM to AG brewing should be a barley crusher followed by a mashing tun; right?

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Well it depends on what you already have.

You can get your grains pre-crushed so I would say the two pieces of equipment vital to AG are a mash tun and a pot able to handle full boils.

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I assume your first piece of equipment to purchase when converting from PM to AG brewing should be a barley crusher followed by a mashing tun; right?
A mill of any type is optional, since most LHBS and even mail order will crush for you. And as for style of crusher/mill, there are many options for that beyond that brand, including using a modified corona mill (like what Charlie Papazian gets 87% effieciency with) or even a modified 20 dollar pasta machine from Michael's are supply store.

But again in order of priorities grain milling is really low.

Of the two Mash Tun or the stuff do do BIAB is number 1

Then if you haven't you need to address doing full size boils, i.e. a turkey fryer or something.

And chilling, as in a wort chiller is a priority.
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I've been doing AG for 2 years and do not own a mill.

For me to go AG as an extract brewer:
1: I picked up a 30qt turkey fryer that allowed me to do full extract batches (~$70)
2: DIY MT (essential) for ~$80.

I buy my ingredients from Brewmasters Warehouse and always get an excellent crush.

Basically, the price from a partial boil extract brewer going to AG cost me $150.

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Even cheaper when you can find that turkey fryer on CL. Tons of them go up in the month or so before Turkey Day.

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But again in order of priorities grain milling is really low.

Of the two Mash Tun or the stuff do do BIAB is number 1

Then if you haven't you need to address doing full size boils, i.e. a turkey fryer or something.

And chilling, as in a wort chiller is a priority.
Right on. But you can skip the chiller and search for no-chill. Saves some $$ and space to store another piece of equipment.
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Even cheaper when you can find that turkey fryer on CL. Tons of them go up in the month or so before Turkey Day.
I paid 25 for mine at Meijer's or maybe Kroger's in late October/early November a couple years back, seems they were getting ready to stock a newer, an consequently more expensive, model for the Thanksgiving holiday, so they deep discounted the older model to clear them out. Look along the back wall where the seasonal stuff is, and you may be surprised, they may be moving last year's fall stuff out of the way to shuffle the summer stuff, like BBq's off the main part of the floor and into "seasonal" so the really old stuff may be on deep clearance.

Just make sure that yours DOESN'T have the newer safety feature that requires you to push a button every 5-15 minutes in order to keep the gas flowing. They're a pain to use, and noone's come up with a good way to bypass that feature.

This one doesn't have it, it is a straght un-inerrupted hose from tank to burner'



The crappy ones will have a little grey box a little larger than an AA battery with a red button on it, located somewhere in the path of the gas. It uses different sized fittings so you can't even easily cut it out of the line and straight pipe the hose.

If all you can find at stores are the ones with the safety feature, than look at Cl or Garage sales.
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I'm now researching the Turkey Fryer option. I imagine stainless is the preferred way to go but is aluminum OK?

TIA,

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I'm now researching the Turkey Fryer option. I imagine stainless is the preferred way to go but is aluminum OK?

TIA,

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You assume wrong...like so many things in brewing, it just doesn't matter.

Read this sticky....it's there for a reason

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/faq-aluminum-pots-boil-kettles-49449/
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Bah, my post was to say I picked up a 30-qt to do full-BOIL (extract) brewing.

Yeah, $150 is at the high-end but it gives you an idea of an upper boundary that isn't intimidating for making a decision with. Get those turkey fryers on sale/discount/used and same for a building a DIY mash tun, you could probably do that cheaper.

I've since moved up to a larger burner and do 10 gal batches in a larger boil kettle but getting into AG wasn't a huge money sink for me and was fun to do with excellent results on every batch.

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