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Old 02-06-2013, 02:47 PM   #911
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Is there a video of the OP's process buried in this thread anywhere?
That's Mr OP if you don't mind. (heh heh...j/k)

Bobby_M posted this video a few years back:

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Old 02-06-2013, 07:15 PM   #912
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i've been bottling a few brews with this method but have had a concern come up and want to see if anyone else has been dealing with the same thing.. I take my keg that is carb'd to specs, clean and freeze my 12 or 22 oz bottle, drop the CO2 pressure to about 2psi and fill the bottles and cap on foam. However, when i go to open the bottles after a few days or few weeks, i get little to no gas noise when popping the cap. The beer itself is carb's fine in the bottle but just concerned that i get zero sound og gas escaping. Is there something i need to worry about or is this common?

I'm getting ready to bottle some chocolate stout that has been sitting and aging in my keg and afraid to bottle this if it goes flat or bad if i'm doing this process wrong.

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Old 02-07-2013, 08:05 PM   #913
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i've been bottling a few brews with this method but have had a concern come up and want to see if anyone else has been dealing with the same thing.. I take my keg that is carb'd to specs, clean and freeze my 12 or 22 oz bottle, drop the CO2 pressure to about 2psi and fill the bottles and cap on foam. However, when i go to open the bottles after a few days or few weeks, i get little to no gas noise when popping the cap. The beer itself is carb's fine in the bottle but just concerned that i get zero sound og gas escaping. Is there something i need to worry about or is this common?

I'm getting ready to bottle some chocolate stout that has been sitting and aging in my keg and afraid to bottle this if it goes flat or bad if i'm doing this process wrong.

Thanks!
If you are transferring a cold carbonated beer into cold bottles and then into the fridge, you probably shouldn’t expect that extra “Phttt” and CO2 cloud. That excess CO2 is formed as the beer continues to ferment ever so slightly in the bottles stored, or traveling at room temperature.

One thing you might try is as soon as you transfer to bottles, let them sit at room temperature for a couple of weeks. The warmer temps will spark just a little additional fermentation and give you that bonus “pop” of CO2 when you open the bottle. But….make sure your beer has fully fermented in the primary. Force carbing in a keg, and then transferring a slightly underfermented beer to room temperature bottles will result in the opposite effect…gushers.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:04 PM   #914
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ok, so i'm not doing anything " wrong " with the fact that i'm not getting the " psst " from opening the bottles.. I mainly bottle the last 4/5 bottles in my keg so i can free it up for new beer..

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Old 02-13-2013, 03:36 AM   #915
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I saw this thread and realized I had all this stuff laying around. It took me a few minutes to build and saved me $75. Thanks for this.

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Great, money saving plan. Thanks much.

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Old 02-22-2013, 03:07 PM   #918
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I will be making some root beer and force carbonating it for a get together this Summer. I don't want or need an expensive counter-pressure filler for its limited amount of use to make "Party Bottles", as I keg and bottle condition my beer. This is perfect. Thank you!

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Here's a proven method for bottling your beer from the keg without an expensive beergun. I've been doing this for over a year and bottled dozens of cases this way. Every beer I've ever entered into a competition has received consistently high scores for carbonation.

Go ahead and keg the entire batch and get it to your desired carbonation.

To do this, you'll need a liquid hose with a picnic (cheap plastic) tap attached. The longer the liquid hose the better. I use about 7 feet. This provides adequate pressure to prevent foaming. The end of a racking cane fits very snuggly into the picnic tap nozzle. (Make sure the cane is pushed all the way into the nozzle of the tap) Go to your local HBS and buy a drilled stopper (I think it is a #2) that will fit over the other end of your racking cane. The end tip of the racking cane should be cut at an angle to allow free flow of the beer.

You now have a racking cane extending from your picnic tap with a stopper about midway up the cane. The idea is that this racking will go to the bottom of your bottle and the stopper will slide down snug onto the neck of the bottle.

It will help to chill your bottles ahead of time. Giving them a quick rinse in cold water will also keep foaming down. Recently, I've taken to just rinsing the bottels and have zero foaming problems.

Now follow these simple steps:
  1. Shut off the gas to your keg momentarily and open the (keg) relief valve to bleed excess pressure from the the keg.
  2. Turn the PSI on your regulator down to about 5. This needs to be a slow gentle process.
  3. Go ahead and open the tap and drain some beer into a waste bucket. This will prime and cool the lines.
  4. Now place the bottle filler into the bottle with the stopper pushed down snug onto the bottle neck. Open the picnic tap to the locked position.
  5. The bottle will begin filling but slow to a stop as the pressure builds
  6. Gently push the side of the stopper to allow the pressure to "burp" out of the bottle and the beer will begin to flow again.
  7. Continue the fill until beer (not just foam) begins overflowing and turn off the tap.
  8. Quickly move the rig to the next bottle and repeat.
  9. When all the bottles are full, give each one a quick "burst" of beer from the tap to top off.
  10. Move the bottles to your capping bench and place a cap on each bottle.
  11. Before locking down the cap on each bottles...tip the bottle on its side and back (holding the cap on with your finger of course). This will cause the beer to begin to foam.
  12. Place the capper on the cap loosely and as soon as the foam begins to overflow...lock down the cap.
This last step is important because capping on foam means you've purged the oxygen from the bottle and it will store much longer.

It will help to contain the mess if you load all of the bottles into a short five gallon bucket. I can usually fit about 13-15 bottles into one.

It sounds more complicated than it actually is. Very easy and you can get a sixer filled in about 5 minutes. Move the bottles to a fridge and open when ready. I just opened a porter this afternoon that I bottled this way about ten days ago and it was perfect.

From here on, I will keg everything and bottle off a twelve pack or so for keepsake and travel.


I recently (10/14/07) openned another Porter from my March bottling session and it was still just perfect. Nice puff of CO2 cloud in the neck of the bottle. Good foaming action during pour. Good thick head...and the beer laced nicely all the way through.

Notice the angled cut of the racking cane. Very important.
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:09 PM   #919
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This is awesome BierMuncher!! I just took the plunge into kegging yesterday and whilst getting everything ready at my LHBS, the guy there was explaining this exact process to me. I picked up the racking cane and picnic faucet so I can do this. Its perfect, cant wait to try it. If I could get 12 bottles off of every keg, I'll be very happy.

Thanks a lot for your write up, I will be doing this in a few weeks.

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