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04-01-2009, 11:40 PM
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I'm going to give this a go too, love the innovation!
The part I'm not getting after reading all 34 pages so far is why not use a bottling wand rather than the siphon? Wouldn't that create less spillage? (But still use the rubber stopper of course to keep the foam at bay...)
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You could. IMO it would be overkill with the stopper and the wand. If you use the stopper correctly that beer stops flowing pretty quickly until you depress the stopper and release a little pressure.
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04-02-2009, 12:05 AM
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Yes, but what I mean is leaving the picnic tap 'on' the whole time, and then when you go from bottle to bottle you're not spilling beer all over the place... no?
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04-02-2009, 01:06 AM
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Yes, but what I mean is leaving the picnic tap 'on' the whole time, and then when you go from bottle to bottle you're not spilling beer all over the place... no?
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Give it a whirl.
I'm wondering though if a bottling wand fits as perfectly into a picnic tap as racking cane.
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04-02-2009, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BierMuncher
Give it a whirl.
I'm wondering though if a bottling wand fits as perfectly into a picnic tap as racking cane.
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Mine does. I actually cut the end off of my bottling wand to use it. 
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04-02-2009, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BierMuncher
Give it a whirl.
I'm wondering though if a bottling wand fits as perfectly into a picnic tap as racking cane.
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The bottling wand does fit just as good into the picnic tap. And here I was thinking I was a genious for thinking of that without you guy's help.

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04-13-2009, 06:09 PM
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Thanks BM, I'm getting parts for a BMBF today. One question I couldn't answer after looking through 80% of the thread... a homebrew buddy (who has a Beer Gun I have borrowed) is convinced that there will be oxidation without purging the bottle with CO2 and has suggested that folks in this thread are not capable of tasting oxidation at those lower levels. Is there an explanation I can give him? It sounds like several posters have experience on bottle filler lines at microbreweries... do the microbreweries purge before filling? Is the initial exposure to oxygen at the bottom of the bottle going to bring oxidation into the beer. I'm a newby and he has brewed several hundred of batches over 15 years so I need some support.
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04-13-2009, 07:13 PM
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Thanks BM, I'm getting parts for a BMBF today. One question I couldn't answer after looking through 80% of the thread... a homebrew buddy (who has a Beer Gun I have borrowed) is convinced that there will be oxidation without purging the bottle with CO2 and has suggested that folks in this thread are not capable of tasting oxidation at those lower levels. Is there an explanation I can give him? It sounds like several posters have experience on bottle filler lines at microbreweries... do the microbreweries purge before filling? Is the initial exposure to oxygen at the bottom of the bottle going to bring oxidation into the beer. I'm a newby and he has brewed several hundred of batches over 15 years so I need some support.
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I have beers that are in excess of 14 months old and they taste great.
Remember that by rocking the bottle just once and waiting for the beer to foam...the O2 is pushed out and then you cap on that CO2 foam.
Any O2 that may be resting in the bottle at the start of the fill is pushed out...plus...with the beer effervescing like it will, an immediate blanket of CO2 will work its way to the surface of the beer and create a barrier.
I'm not saying it can't happen if someone is sloppy, but I've never been dinged for oxygenation, nor ever tasted it in my aged bottles. Though it sounds like a good justification for dropping a $-hunskie on a shiny, fancy gadget. 
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04-13-2009, 09:55 PM
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Yeah, I thought it might be that he has a counterpressure filler and BeerGun in the cellar. Besides, like you said, there should be seriously little 02 contact since the cane goes to the bottom and the co2 would blanket the top of the beer as it rises.
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04-16-2009, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ltbrewsit
Yeah, I thought it might be that he has a counterpressure filler and BeerGun in the cellar. Besides, like you said, there should be seriously little 02 contact since the cane goes to the bottom and the co2 would blanket the top of the beer as it rises.
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There is no way you are going to get enough O2 mixed with the beer just from filling a bottle. I doubt i could happen even if you were sloppy. You'd seriously have to shake it up to get the O2 mixed with the beer before capping in order to end up with oxidized beer.
There will be a VERY slight bit of contact with the air when you fill normally, but no more than filling bottles the normal way with a bottling bucket and priming sugar. In fact, much less, since you are then able to let the Co2 in the beer push the oxygen out of the headspace before capping. It's very nearly a fantasy to claim that you will get any noticeable oxidation by not purging first with CO2 IMO.
I just used my BMBF 2 days ago and loved it. So cheap, so easy, and so effective. It's an awesum device! 
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04-17-2009, 03:20 PM
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I just used mine again last night, this time with 2 epoxy mixers tubes inserted in the 3 feet of 3/16" tubing. It worked even better this go around.
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