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Old 04-22-2009, 04:27 PM   #11
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I wonder how you get the thicker wax like the Maker's Mark bottle. Just get it barely melted?

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Old 04-22-2009, 04:35 PM   #12
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I am sure that a couple of factors are concidered.
1: Quality of wax
2: Temp
3: Beeswax vs manmade
4: Coloring/thickening agents

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Old 04-22-2009, 04:39 PM   #13
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probably mulitple layers as well?
Dip it let it dry, dip it let it dry, so on.

I think wax dipped bottle look really cool. Some guys did it for the 80808 RIS swap and it just upped the cool factor. If I ever do a Huge RIS I will probably bottle it in bombers and wax it. Would make it really nice for gift's too.

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probably mulitple layers as well?
Dip it let it dry, dip it let it dry, so on.
I know Makers Mark is a single dip Process. I got to see them dipping it on a tour i took there in 2004. to the touch, it has an almost plastic like texture, so it is obviously not pure wax.
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Old 04-22-2009, 04:49 PM   #15
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probably mulitple layers as well?
Dip it let it dry, dip it let it dry, so on.

I think wax dipped bottle look really cool. Some guys did it for the 80808 RIS swap and it just upped the cool factor. If I ever do a Huge RIS I will probably bottle it in bombers and wax it. Would make it really nice for gift's too.
No its not multiple dipped. Watched an episode on Whiskey and saw them dipping the Makers Mark bottles. They were dipped by hand and it was a one time, very quick dip. Must be the wax or the additives used in the wax. Probably a very tightly controlled temp also.

You don't need wax on your caps as the caps provide sufficient seal and there is not any cork in the seal that needs to be protected.

Also O2 caps do not prevent oxygen from entering the bottle any better than do normal caps. The difference is when activated by water the O2 caps absorb O2 from the headspace. This is done by capping then tipping the bottles upside down to wet the caps. The O2 absorbing is short lived but the bottles are sealed so no more should enter.

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The O2 absorbing is short lived but the bottles are sealed so no more should enter.
I think it was confirmed to be a slow process taking 3-6 days and thus it's fine to soak caps in sanitizer before capping. There was a thread about it.
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No its not multiple dipped. Watched an episode on Whiskey and saw them dipping the Makers Mark bottles. They were dipped by hand and it was a one time, very quick dip. Must be the wax or the additives used in the wax. Probably a very tightly controlled temp also.
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Ok so I just spent an inordinate amount of time looking up how to make bottle sealing wax (or just sealing wax). Lots of talk of shellac/beeswax/rosin etc that would be cool to get in to, but expensive.

When looking at people doing seals on letters, a lot will use colored hot glue. I'm thinking of buying a pack of hot-glue sticks, either colored or color it myself and give it a shot with bottles. I'm hoping it will stick OK and look great but not be too hard to peal off.... Or I could just buy the bottle wax the sell at the homebrew shops.

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Ok so I just spent an inordinate amount of time looking up how to make bottle sealing wax (or just sealing wax). Lots of talk of shellac/beeswax/rosin etc that would be cool to get in to, but expensive.

When looking at people doing seals on letters, a lot will use colored hot glue. I'm thinking of buying a pack of hot-glue sticks, either colored or color it myself and give it a shot with bottles. I'm hoping it will stick OK and look great but not be too hard to peal off.... Or I could just buy the bottle wax the sell at the homebrew shops.
What are we looking at as "too expensive"? Price per batch of 50 bottles estimate?
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I guess I meant too expensive as more than buying the bottle wax they sell at the homebrew stores. Most of the recipes I saw were based of shellac, which I saw for $30 online per lb. but could be found cheaper.

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