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Old 01-05-2009, 01:20 PM   #1
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Default Very old corny, need to order poppet.

Most of my cornies are Challenger V & VI's. And I have found places to order these poppets.

But one of my kegs looks to be older than the rest. It says it is a Challenger but not what type. Is this a "Type C?"

The kegs itself is slightly different as well. It is a standard ball lock but the posts seem taller somehow. The dip tube does not bend and the keg drains from one side of the bottom instead of in the middle like standard kegs. And where the posts screw on is at least twice as large as the other kegs i have.

The label reads:

"Firestone Steel Products Co.
Spartanburg, S.C.
712765
Max. Cap. 5 Gal.
Challenger"

Then there is a really old looking NSF stamp.

This lid is slightly different as well. It is slightly less oval like than other kegs.

The lid reads:

"NDSA-VS-01"

If someone could point me in the direction of a poppet that would be great.

It just occurred to me that i could test the other Challenger V poppets (from my other kegs) in this keg to see if they fit.

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Old 01-05-2009, 02:48 PM   #2
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would this work?

Firestone - Long Leg poppet

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Old 01-05-2009, 03:32 PM   #3
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Williams Brewing has pictures and descriptions on their web page, have you looked there?
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Old 01-05-2009, 03:47 PM   #4
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That sounds like it from the description. The keg does have plastic inserts, i forgot to mention that.

They seem to have long legs. Thanks guys.
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You have what is referred to as a racetrack keg. It is an original firestone. Be very careful with the plastic dip tubes. They are no longer available.

As mentioned, look at the Williams website.

Also FWIW, the o-rings for the tubes look different but you can stack regular o-rings and they seal fine. The standard lid o-rings will fit just fine as well.

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You have what is referred to as a racetrack keg. It is an original firestone. Be very careful with the plastic dip tubes. They are no longer available.

As mentioned, look at the Williams website.

Also FWIW, the o-rings for the tubes look different but you can stack regular o-rings and they seal fine. The standard lid o-rings will fit just fine as well.
Thanks for the tip on the o rings. Someone must have replaced the plastic dip tube with a metal one at some point. it was in there real good though.
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I was looking for a plastic gas in tube to replace a warped/bent one. (stainless ones from B3 didn't work)

thanks!

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I just ordered some post from Williams for an old Firestone and they don't work, so they're going back. Let me know if you find a place that has the parts for this keg. I'm having the worst time finding parts and pieces. I tried ordering posts by matching up w/ pictures w/ no success. The poppits have feet that look like Williams' A.E.B. poppits. I ordered the AEB posts and no dice. The thread on these kegs seem really large, requiring a 13/16" and 7/8" socket for removal. Any help would be great, Thanks alot

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After picking the best two of four and doing the chalkboard paint thing, I took the two apart to clean them up and replace the o-rings and low and behold, it looks like I have one of these old kegs.

Other than the lid (racetrack oval) the posts look the same from the outside, and the same 22mm wrench works on this keg as it does my others. In addition to the larger internal thread on the liquid side, I've noticed that the dip tube is a bit larger than the dip tube in my other kegs (and like the others, not bent). Everything appears to be normal on the gas side - metal dip tube, o-ring, etc.

In my case it looks like everything is in pretty good shape, so maybe simply stacking two o-rings on the liquid side will work.

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