New Giveaway - Wort Monster Conical Fermenter!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Bottling/Kegging > Tap-A-Draft




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2006, 12:49 AM   #1
Lochboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 20
Default Tap-A-Draft

Has anyone here used a tap-a-draft system?? I have used one for 3 brews. first 2 were great and am now thinking about using Nitrogen for a Stout.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

Lochboy



__________________
Lochboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 01:12 AM   #2
gruntingfrog
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Dallas, Texas
Posts: 345
Default

Do they make nitrogen cartridges that will fit the tap-a-draft?



__________________

Up Next: Belgian Dubbel, English Pale Ale
Fermenter 1: Blonde Ale Experiment 1 | Fermenter 2: Blonde Ale Experiment 2 | Fermenter 3: Northern English Brown | Fermenter 4: Nothing
Keg 1: Nothing | Keg 2: Nothing | Keg 3: Nothing
Bottled: Nothing
gruntingfrog is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 01:18 AM   #3
Walker
I use secondaries. :p
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Walker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 11,238
Liked 70 Times on 62 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

What's the purpose of using nitrogen?

__________________
Ground Fault Brewing Co.
Walker is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 01:24 AM   #4
Lochboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 20
Default

The Tap-a-draft uses CO2 to carbonate or serve the beer. You can also use Nitrogen to serve the beer giving it the nice creamy head and mouth feel you get in Scottish, Irish and English ales that I know from back home.

Thanks

Lochboy



It take 8gram CO2 or Nitrogen

I got mine through Northern Brewer


http://www.northernbrewer.com/mini-kegs.html

http://www.ibrew.com.au/html/equipment/tapadraft/tapadraft.html

__________________
Lochboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 01:28 AM   #5
Walker
I use secondaries. :p
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Walker's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 11,238
Liked 70 Times on 62 Posts
Likes Given: 11

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lochboy
The Tap-a-draft uses CO2 to carbonate or serve the beer. You can also use Nitrogen to serve the beer giving it the nice creamy head and mouth feel you get in Scottish, Irish and English ales that I know from back home.
If I am correct on this... To get that creamy head, you need a mixture of CO2 and nitrogen (called 'beer gas'), as well as a special tap.

brew on!
__________________
Ground Fault Brewing Co.
Walker is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 01:32 AM   #6
Chairman Cheyco
***DRAMATIZATION***
HBT_LIFETIMESUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
Chairman Cheyco's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,274
Liked 5 Times on 5 Posts

Default

Yeah the nitrogen allows higher pressure to use the creamer faucet without over-carbonating the beer.

__________________

Once the wind has been broken, it cannot be fixed.

Chairman Cheyco is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-17-2006, 02:26 AM   #7
Lochboy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 20
Default

It's not perfect but you carbonate with co2 then attach one co2 with one nitrogen. Again not perfection but we will see in a few weeks.

Lochboy

__________________
Lochboy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-23-2006, 03:49 PM   #8
dougjones31
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 351
Liked 1 Times on 1 Posts

Default

The reason you use beer gas or nitrogen is to push the beer without adding too much carbonation. Stouts reguire very little carbonation. The amount of carbonation affect the size of the bubbles and therefore affects how creamy the beer tastes.

Less carbonation and the beer does not have the CO2 bite and is creamier tasting.

__________________
dougjones31 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-23-2006, 04:08 PM   #9
Focus
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cape Cod, Mass.
Posts: 237
Liked 3 Times on 3 Posts

Default What's the secret to the tap-a-draft

Lockboy,

What's your secret to using the tap-a-draft? I bought two setups a couple of years ago - completely untested, of course - and never got them to work properly. Ended up using probably a total of 6 gal of flat porter/amber to boil brats in. Tasted good, but one helluva waste of homebrew - and I cannot tell you the grief I've gotten from SWMBO over that escapade.

Here's what I did at botteling:
1) standard priming for 5 gal batch
2) filled TAD bottles using screw-on caps for all but one bottle
3) attached/screwed-on despensing rig to one bottle
4) attached 2 CO2 cartridges

Two weeks later (the min time I usually allow for conditioning and natural carbonation), I had flat, stale tasting beer. I figured there was a slow leak somewhere in the setup although I wasn't leaving beer and could hear no gas eascaping. I tried connecting one of the other bottles (the bottle-carbonated ones) to the despencer. This time, I could get it to dispense at a pretty slow rate and could never get all of the beer out of the bottle before it would go flat. At this point, the beer didn't taste stale like before, but I couldn't keep it carbonated beyond the first couple of days.

Anyway, what do you do that seems to make it work for you. I've recently begun kegging in the 5-gal cornies, so I'm probably not going back to the T-A-D, but it would be nice to get SWMBO off my back about it. I could maybe sell them to someone else, but only if I knew that they worked properly.

Thanks!
Focus

__________________

Upcoming Projects: Return to brewing!
The Online Brewery: www.twospooks.com (Recently, and completely renovated. Stop by, sign the guestbook, and leave some feedback!)


Last edited by Focus; 10-23-2006 at 04:11 PM.
Focus is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-25-2006, 12:48 AM   #10
joutlaw
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Jackson, MS
Posts: 151
Default

I'm following the same process... sounds like verbatim of the instructions. Although I have found the batches I "force" carb are not that carbonated.

I'm drinking a Best Bitter now that I filled one tap-a-draft bottle and primed with corn sugar. I put the remaining in a cornelius keg and cannot tell the difference flavor or carbonation wise.

It's my understanding that the tap-a-draft system is prone to trouble though. SWMBO's dad gave it to me for christmas to bring him beer when I visit I suppose. It's great for travel and that's my primary purpose of it.

Unfornately this batch started leaking when it carbonated. Maybe too much corn sugar. I tried twisted the cap tighter, but after a few days it leaked again. It aged for 3 weeks and when I removed the cap it sounded like a 3 liter coke. The beer is fine, but I still couldn't take a chance because we won't see the SWMBO in laws for 3 weeks.



__________________

Soon to be brewing again!

joutlaw is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tap a Draft SRFeldman79 Bottling/Kegging 2 04-09-2008 06:17 PM
First draft 53x11 Label Display & Discussion 3 02-12-2008 03:31 PM
Built-In Draft Setup / Refrigeration vs. Draft Box Fiery Sword Bottling/Kegging 5 11-09-2006 06:03 PM
Tap-a-Draft Brewing Clamper Bottling/Kegging 6 08-04-2006 11:43 AM