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Old 12-30-2009, 12:12 AM   #11
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I've taken a very simple approach, all my lines (except the soda line) are 12' of 3/16ths. I don't care about the perfect pour. A few extra seconds and no worry about foam.

Duffman2 - changing your pressure doesn't immediately change the amount of CO2 in the beer and that is important.

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Old 12-30-2009, 12:54 AM   #12
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At 24psi, you're going to need roughly a sh!t load of tubing. To be honest, the calculations are bull. If you want to test my theory, try doing the calculation, ordering exactly that length and if you pour half a glass of foam, I'm right. I think the resistance per foot is variable and the average temp of the beer is likely to be a little different than what the probe in the kegerator measures due to gradients in the box. 10' of tubing works well for my typical 10-14psi. Anything lower than 10psi for a mild for example, will pour a little too slow. I'd go with 16 feet for 24 psi and wrap it around the keg at the bottom where it will stay cold. You could also go shorter and fill your dip tube with those epoxy mixing tips. Search "a cure for your short hose troubles". It's not a Viagra ad.

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Old 12-30-2009, 01:41 PM   #13
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...and wrap it around the keg at the bottom where it will stay cold.
I think this is important too and believe it was my foaming culprit on my keezer V1.0 I have 10 ft lines and coiled teh extra on top of the keg not even thinking about it. I do like the shorter lines though just from a organization standpoint.
Also duffman, Are you using beverage tubing or just 3/16 line from your hardware store? You have 24psi???
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Old 12-30-2009, 01:59 PM   #14
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I went with 10' lines based on what I read here on the kegs that I added later. The lines on my original kegs that were 4-5' foam up no matter what I do whereas the 10' lines pour perfectly. Just went out yesterday and bought tubing so that I can convert the remaining lines to 10'. Montanaandy

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Old 12-30-2009, 04:41 PM   #15
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I think this is important too and believe it was my foaming culprit on my keezer V1.0 I have 10 ft lines and coiled teh extra on top of the keg not even thinking about it. I do like the shorter lines though just from a organization standpoint.
Also duffman, Are you using beverage tubing or just 3/16 line from your hardware store? You have 24psi???
I set the keg at 20 psi for a couple of days, but other than that I've had it at 10.

My hose came from kegconnections but I just bought regular hardware store (Lowes) tubing at 12 ft to try it out. Hopefully the tubing is ok.
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Old 12-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #16
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I am running 15' of 3/16" and at 42* I usually get a nearly perfect pour. Along with what Bobby said, the calculations are not the gospel, but I personally think they are a pretty good starting point.

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I am running 15' of 3/16" and at 42* I usually get a nearly perfect pour. Along with what Bobby said, the calculations are not the gospel, but I personally think they are a pretty good starting point.
Those are long! I get perfect pours at 42f with 6ft lines. Everybody's setup is different.
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Those are long! I get perfect pours at 42f with 6ft lines. Everybody's setup is different.
I do have a little trouble getting decent head sometimes. But you are right, everyone's wife...er, I mean system is a little different.
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