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waskelton4 03-29-2006 02:36 PM

Removing Gas container from guiness bottles..
 
Hey group..
does anyone have any good ways to get those plastic gas holder thingies out of the guiness draught bottles so they can be used for bottling??

thanks
ws

1984CJ 03-29-2006 02:43 PM

I don't have a good way but I have done it in the past. I rinse the bottle, hold it near the bottom of the bottle and give it a good sling downwards. This sticks the widget in the neck, partially exposed. Use a pair of needle nosed pliers to extract the widget.

david_42 03-29-2006 02:45 PM

Haven't tried it, but one member says he just inverts the bottle and grabs the widget with longnosed pliers.

Baron von BeeGee 03-29-2006 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskelton4
Hey group..
does anyone have any good ways to get those plastic gas holder thingies out of the guiness draught bottles so they can be used for bottling??

thanks
ws

Dang, man, we're waiting for someone to bottle a beer with the widget still inside so we can see if they'll function as intended with homebrew! Don't you want to be the Guinea pig?

brewhead 03-29-2006 03:35 PM

i have used a pair of hemostats - works good

El Pistolero 03-29-2006 03:43 PM

Needle nose pliers work good, as do hemostats (which I'm told are sometimes referred to as roach clips).

waskelton4 03-29-2006 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron von BeeGee
Dang, man, we're waiting for someone to bottle a beer with the widget still inside so we can see if they'll function as intended with homebrew! Don't you want to be the Guinea pig?

well.. i'm sure i could leave it in there but i doubt it would work..

don't the widgets go in pressurized with gas so that the pressure inside the bottle creates equalibrium between the bottle and the widget..
then you pop the top.. and the pressure in the bottle flys out causing the pressure in the widget to be greater than its surroundings so it spews gas creating glorious bubbles in your beer.. and is therefor no longer useful for further brews..??

just a guess ;)

maybe somebody could manufacture a pre filled widget that "arms" itself when the bottle reaches a certain pressure..


ws

david_42 03-29-2006 04:04 PM

Widgets are pre-loaded with a drop of liquid nitrogen. It's then popped into the bottle and capped, so when the N2 vaporizes, it stays in the widget. There isn't any way to reuse them.

Walker 03-29-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waskelton4
well.. i'm sure i could leave it in there but i doubt it would work..

don't the widgets go in pressurized with gas so that the pressure inside the bottle creates equalibrium between the bottle and the widget..
then you pop the top.. and the pressure in the bottle flys out causing the pressure in the widget to be greater than its surroundings so it spews gas creating glorious bubbles in your beer.. and is therefor no longer useful for further brews..??

just a guess ;)

maybe somebody could manufacture a pre filled widget that "arms" itself when the bottle reaches a certain pressure..


ws

search for guinness widget on this forum. The function of the widget has been discussed in pretty good detail (we even read the patent on the thing!)

In short: widgets go into the bottle "empty" (they contain gas, naturally... air or nitrogen, but they are not pressurized.)

Beer is put into the bottle with the 'empty' widget.

A drop if liquid nitrogen is put into the beer, and the bottle is sealed. The increasing pressure in the bottle pushed beer into the widget, compressing the air or nitrogen that was in the 'empty' widget.

When you open the bottle, the now compressed gas in the widget forces the beer out of the widget in a high pressure jet, and this releases teeny tiny bubbles of carbonation to give you a creamy head.

We have a theory here that the widget can be cleaned and reused. Just drop the 'empty' widget into a bottle, and put beer in.

We don't think you need liquid nitrogen, because the pressure from normal carbonation should force beer into the widget to get the desired effect in the end.

-walker

Walker 03-29-2006 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david_42
Widgets are pre-loaded with a drop of liquid nitrogen. It's then popped into the bottle and capped, so when the N2 vaporizes, it stays in the widget. There isn't any way to reuse them.

Not true, David. :)

I'll see if I can dig up the patent link from this site.

-walker


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