chefchris

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I've never had luck with the BMBF. Always loses carbonation. Basically the only difference between the BMBF and the Beer Gun/Counter Pressure setup is the purge of CO2 before and after the fill.

Here's what I thought ...

Get an empty keg and put some pressure on it. Use the piece of racking cane and #2 stopper shoved in the cobra tap like in the BMBF. Flush the bottle with CO2 from the empty keg through a cobra tap, fill with the racking cane, then top it off with a little more C02 from the empty keg and cap.

You might not even need the stopper. If you look at the beer gun it's just a piece of pipe stuck in a bottle, nothing capping the bottle off.

Just a thought I had.


That being said, my beer gun should be here this week.

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Scut_Monkey

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I've never intimately seen how a beer gun works but from how they appear to work this would be equivalent. Does the beer gun provide some other type of back pressure to help keep down foaming? I would think it has to otherwise you would have so much within the bottle.

chefchris

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It just suggests that you use 10' of beer line to keep foaming down. I used 6 feet and it worked fine. It's basically a pipe. You press a button to flood the bottle with co2, pull the trigger to dispense beer, then push the button again to cap off the beer with co2. There's no stopper on it, just a skinny pipe reaching to the bottom of the bottle.

Here's a video demonstrating the beer gun, except he doesn't hit it with co2 before capping it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i98sXDgjs7Q

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Bottled: Berliner Weisse

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ajwillys

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Yeah, I basically do what you're saying. I use a BMBF with pre and post CO2 purge. To do this, I set my reg to about 2 psi and use a tee running to two beer hoses. One runs to the keg with beer in it, the other is just a hose with an on/off on the end. I use this hose for purging. I've thought about combining the two by using a needle pushed through the stopper, but haven't gotten around to it yet.

EDIT: The beer gun doesn't use counter pressure. It counts on slow moving beer (from a long hose) and the fact that the beer is deposited directly to the bottom of the bottle, minimizing foaming.

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So out of curiosity, it I use a long hose and gently get the beer to the bottom of the bottle, it would be the same as using the gun and I can bottle beer from my keg?

chefchris

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Do a search for 'BMBF' or 'We don't need a stinkin' beer gun'

I've never had luck with that method, though.

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On Tap: Brown Ale, American Stout, Pumpkin Porter, Pale Ale, Uncle Muscle's IPA, Rowsdower Canadian Dry Stout

Bottled: Berliner Weisse

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Scut_Monkey

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It would be the same except you would not have ability to purge the bottle with CO2 before and after filling. By purging you can ensure oxidation is minimized. Also, it allows the headspace to be filled with CO2 which ensures that CO2 from the beer will not diffuse into it changing the carb level of the beer itself.

wildwest450

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Thats strange, I just cracked a barleywine from last year I bottled with bmbf, it was still perfectly carbed. No co2 purging of any kind. Although if you fill the bottles I see no reason to purge with c02, how much air do you get when your capping on foam?

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Professor Frink

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This method has worked great for me. Just make sure your pressure is very low and you have a good seal with your stopper.

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Is the stopper a must? I bottle straight from my perlicks with a wand and o-ring. I don't always make use of the stopper.

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