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blaster_54738 01-04-2013 08:27 PM

Oxiclean ruined my bottles!
 
So I recently had a unique problem while cleaning/delabeling bottles. I put them in my 7 gallon bucket with a scoop of oxiclean like I always have, let them sit overnight and pulled them out. They all have junk stuck to them (inside and out). It's almost like salt or something and only comes off with serious scrubbing. I've used the water from my tap before with no issues but this all of a sudden just started. I figured it was from the water softener so I go outside and get a bucket full of a water from the spigot (doesn't go through the softener), put in a scoop of oxiclean and some bottles and let them sit over night. Same thing. I have no idea how to get this crud out of the inside of my bottles. Tried a bottle brush and it works...somewhat. Dishwasher didn't do much. No real good way to scrub the inside. Any ideas? Also what could be causing it. I'm guessing my oxiclean may be bad since I eliminated the softener? It isn't generic oxiclean either.

joelmole 01-04-2013 08:55 PM

I've seen oxyclean leave a soapy residue on bottles that dries like hard water stains, that may be what is happening to you. Try soaking the bottles in Starsan if you have some. That seemed to do the trick for me last time.

lopatkam 01-04-2013 09:06 PM

Instead of using just Oxyclean, try a mixture of 3 parts Oxyclean to one part TSP/90. This is very close to Powdered Brewery Wash which works very well, but is very expensive.

Mark

bpgreen 01-04-2013 09:13 PM

You can remove that residue with just about anything acidic. Star San will work really well. If you don't have any Star San, you can use some distilled vinegar. It doesn't need to be full strength. You can dissolve a little bit in some water and soak for a while. Depending on how bad the residue is, you may only need a small amount of vinegar in a bucket of water.

JeepDiver 01-04-2013 09:16 PM

sounds like you are using cold water. Probably was warm enough during the summer to disolve things, but not now.

blaster_54738 01-04-2013 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelmole (Post 4747538)
I've seen oxyclean leave a soapy residue on bottles that dries like hard water stains, that may be what is happening to you. Try soaking the bottles in Starsan if you have some. That seemed to do the trick for me last time.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpgreen (Post 4747607)
You can remove that residue with just about anything acidic. Star San will work really well. If you don't have any Star San, you can use some distilled vinegar. It doesn't need to be full strength. You can dissolve a little bit in some water and soak for a while. Depending on how bad the residue is, you may only need a small amount of vinegar in a bucket of water.

I will try a starsan soak when I get home. Thanks

blaster_54738 01-09-2013 02:52 PM

Well they have been soaking and the junk is still on the bottom so starsan didn't work

Drewski8986 01-09-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpgreen
You can remove that residue with just about anything acidic. Star San will work really well. If you don't have any Star San, you can use some distilled vinegar. It doesn't need to be full strength. You can dissolve a little bit in some water and soak for a while. Depending on how bad the residue is, you may only need a small amount of vinegar in a bucket of water.

Try this it has worked for me as well

jamest22 01-09-2013 02:59 PM

I have had this happen before. I believe it was because undisolved PBW/Oxyclean was in contact with the bottles for an extended period of time with greatly fluctuating temperature. It created a scale or stain that I couldn't get off with scrubbing or starsan. Try a 15 minute warm soak in PBW, followed by an immediate warm rinse. This has worked for me when I had a similar scale build up inside a carboy from an extended PBW soak.

kh54s10 01-09-2013 03:01 PM

After you remove the residue, continue to use Oxyclean but use much less.

I use about 1/4 - 1/3 scoop in a 5 gallon bucket and it works well. I may have the right water chemistry but I have left bottles soaking for more than a week with no problems.


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