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Picobrew 05-15-2009 09:12 PM

Need some keg rotation advice
 
Problem: kegerator fits only 2 kegs. I have 8 kegs. Whenever a beer runs out, that means I put in another keg. Then i wait, and I wait for it to be carbed. By the time that happens, keg 2 is nearly dead. this means I can only really have 1 rocking keg at a time.

Does anyone have any magic here? Maybe given my constraints, i should be more aggresively carbing instead of waiting 1-2weeks for it to carb at serving pressure? I use about 10psi at 37degrees.

Another option is to prime all my kegs. Does anyone do this?

hopsoda 05-15-2009 09:30 PM

Yep, im priming mine because its faster and less work,

another thing you can do is pull your gas line off the serving keg and dump 30-40 psi into the new keg to and shake it around do this a few times over a few days and let them sit then they will be partially carbd , when you rotate them in so less lag time between kegs... or you over carb doing this - so bleed excess and serve they even out in about 24 hours.

my kegorator only holds 2 kegs - 1 for serving one for clearing , when one goes dry the cleared beer rotates in and a new primed keg rotates in to clear.

i have done it both ways , just make sure the priming sugar is all ate up or the beer will be somewhat sweet... eww

bruin_ale 05-15-2009 09:38 PM

I've primed in the keg when my kegerator was full.. worked perfectly. Also, I don't carbonate at serving pressure.

What I do is shut off the manifold to all my carbonated beer and just shoot 30psi into the new keg for a day. Then I put it to serving pressure. That usually cuts alot of time off the carbonation, most are good to go in about 3 days.

Arkador 05-15-2009 09:55 PM

In your case, natural carbing sounds like a good idea. Your only alternative is...
1: Faster force carbing
2: get a Keezer that will hold more kegs.

bruin_ale 05-15-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkador (Post 1326814)
2: get a Keezer that will hold more kegs.

Best....idea........evar... :D

hammacks 05-15-2009 10:25 PM

Hit all kegs not on tap with 30 to 40 psi. Do it one or two more times. Do you have tape or something to mark what is in the kegs? You could make little checks on them so you know how many times its been done. It is a bit of a PITA, but if you just do it once or twice a week it's no biggie, and greatly reduces carbing time.

Picobrew 05-15-2009 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by hammacks (Post 1326885)
Hit all kegs not on tap with 30 to 40 psi. Do it one or two more times. Do you have tape or something to mark what is in the kegs? You could make little checks on them so you know how many times its been done. It is a bit of a PITA, but if you just do it once or twice a week it's no biggie, and greatly reduces carbing time.

Thanks great idea! I already mark them with tape so this is brilliant.

Thanks for all the ideas guys. The best one is just to buy a bigger freezer! but I have to organize the hell out of my messy garage first.

I barely have any square footage, so if i look at the freezer space as a % of my mortage, I think the size chest freezer I want would cost me about $800/yr haha. Probably still worth it times ten.

StunnedMonkey 05-15-2009 10:33 PM

Just get a second regulator and tank and keep the waiting kegs under pressure in the garage or something. That's what I do. When a keg kicks, there's one carbed and ready. It may need a few hours to chill if it's been held at room temp, but it'll be carbed.

Picobrew 05-15-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StunnedMonkey (Post 1326905)
Just get a second regulator and tank and keep the waiting kegs under pressure in the garage or something. That's what I do. When a keg kicks, there's one carbed and ready. It may need a few hours to chill if it's been held at room temp, but it'll be carbed.

Also a good idea except my mind exploded when I heard that the CO2 bottle is $86. Wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't bought 8 kegs, a propane burner, an immersion chiller, a grain mill, and a new drill in the last 2 weeks...

Do you keep it at a higher PSI ala the carbing charts?

The other nice thing about having that 2nd tank is that it's ready to go if the other one knocks out. My classy regulator doesn't have the gauge that would remind you that the tank is about to blow.

StunnedMonkey 05-15-2009 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Picobrew (Post 1326908)
Also a good idea except my mind exploded when I heard that the CO2 bottle is $86. Wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't bought 8 kegs, a propane burner, an immersion chiller, a grain mill, and a new drill in the last 2 weeks...

Do you keep it at a higher PSI ala the carbing charts?

The other nice thing about having that 2nd tank is that it's ready to go if the other one knocks out. My classy regulator doesn't have the gauge that would remind you that the tank is about to blow.


Yeah, the initial outlay stings a bit. But the other nice use for the 2nd reg and tank is keg maintenance. I use that one for cycling cleaner and sanitizer through my kegs so as not to waste the CO2 in the keezer. And since I do all the maintenance and initial carbing with the 2nd tank, the one in the keezer (which is harder to get to) doesn't need changing very often.

I do adjust the PSI for the warmer temps, but in the winter months the garage is practically keezer-temp anyway.


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