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Old 08-10-2011, 09:41 PM   #1
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Default Need advice on how to remove Oxyclean residue on bottles

Tried to multitask two days ago by boil conditioning my new aluminum kettle and clean some bottles at the same time. I had a bucket of bottles that had been soaking in an oxyclean/water bath that I added to the the water in my aluminum boil kettle. I thought that boiling for an hour would help clean the bottles as well as condition the kettle but now I have a white film on the bottles that rinsing just won't remove.

I have tried soaking the bottles in a clean water solution with some regular vinegar added and then I used my bottle washer to try to clean the inside and wipe the outside surface clean but the film just keeps coming back.

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PS: the reason I tried putting the bottles in the boiling water of the aluminum kettle was to try to use less water. It is a 20 gallon kettle. now the inside surface of the kettle has turned black/gray in spots. Not sure what this might mean.







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Does it feel chalky to the touch?
Starsan or vinegar soak.



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I tried a mild solution of vinegar with no luck so I will try starsan next to see what happens. It is hard to say if the film feels really chalky or not since it is so thin. When I wipe it away it seems to reapear quickly.

Would an overnight soak be too long or OK?

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Starsan works for me. After using oxyclean, I spray all of my bottles with starsan inside and out, then rinse. Right before bottling, I spray again with starsan and put a starsan soaked top on it.

I've never had to let anything soak in starsan to get the residue off. It comes off immediately if you rinse it before it dries. Same goes with your hands. If you dip your hands in oxyclean and can't get that residue off. A spray of starsan and it goes away instantly. I couldn't live without a spray bottle of starsan.

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If the StarSan doesn't work, you might try soaking in a solution of hot water and PBW, followed by a thorough hot water rinse.

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Well, I guess I don't have to tell you, but I just can't help it: That was DUMB!

a "mild" solution of vinegar aint gonna cut it... you need to just use vinegar. It'll melt that oxiclean right outta there in no time.

As for the kettle, that is just plain old aluminum oxidation. The solution is soapy water and a kitchen scrubby... Your arm is gonna hurt real bad by the time you clean that mess up... Hopefully, the next time you decide to cook oxyclean, your arm will smack you for thinking about it

Oh, and BTW, the kettle will not be shiny again until you brew and the acidic nature of the wort etches it clean... mmmm aluminum oxide ale... JK, it's not enough to cause a problem.

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Well, I guess I don't have to tell you, but I just can't help it: That was DUMB!

a "mild" solution of vinegar aint gonna cut it... you need to just use vinegar. It'll melt that oxiclean right outta there in no time.

As for the kettle, that is just plain old aluminum oxidation. The solution is soapy water and a kitchen scrubby... Your arm is gonna hurt real bad by the time you clean that mess up... Hopefully, the next time you decide to cook oxyclean, your arm will smack you for thinking about it

Oh, and BTW, the kettle will not be shiny again until you brew and the acidic nature of the wort etches it clean... mmmm aluminum oxide ale... JK, it's not enough to cause a problem.
Yeah...I agree that it was dumb. I asked some members of the forum on another thread as to the best way to condition a new pot. Some said to do a full boil with maximum volume possible. Some suggested a a 2 to 3 day soak with oxyclean. One fellow mentioned doing a mild oxyclean boil.

Looks like I have some wax on wax off activity to do tomorrow.
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I have been using an oxyclean soak to remove labels from bottles. However, the last time I did the water was too hot, I used too much oxyclean, and/or too long (16 hours), or some combination thel three, and the bottles had that same chalky coating, inside and out. I dropped them into my star-san bucket and within 20 minutes they were clean. Didn't do much good for the star-san though, clouded right up.

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I have been using an oxyclean soak to remove labels from bottles. However, the last time I did the water was too hot, I used too much oxyclean, and/or too long (16 hours), or some combination thel three, and the bottles had that same chalky coating, inside and out. I dropped them into my star-san bucket and within 20 minutes they were clean. Didn't do much good for the star-san though, clouded right up.
Good to know. The bottles have been soaking in starsan for about an hour now. I might not be able to get them onto the drying racks until tomorrow because of fatherly duties with our 15 month old son. Any chance there is a problem with soaking too long in the starsan?
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No problem soaking too long in starsan, but the oxyclean residue is alkaline and will raise the ph of the starsan. I couldn't tell you whether it would raise it enough to make it ineffective as a sanitizer. That's why I just spray it on. It only takes enough to get the bottle wet to remove the residue.



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