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Old 02-12-2005, 04:19 PM   #11
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Old 02-13-2005, 07:27 PM   #12
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Default Star san no rinse bottling

I would assume that soaking in bleach solution, without a rinse step, would endanger the yeast you need for bottle conditioning. But what about Star San acid sanitizer. It is no-rinse for most aplications (fermenters, racking tubes etc), so would it work to just soak and drain bottles in a properly diluted solution of Star san, then bottle right into them (even if still wet)?



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Old 02-13-2005, 07:57 PM   #13
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Oh, I agree with you on the bleach ruining the beer.

Don't get me wrong...I rinse the bleach off with very hot water and place them on the drying rack just prior to using.

This technique also allows me to look at all of my bottles/cases and determine which ones are already sanitized and which ones aren't. It takes the guess work out.

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I'm not a fan of bleach for sanitizing, too many possible chemical reactions that can ruin a batch of beer.

I fill the bottling bucket with 3 gallons of iodophor and fill the bottles in there (after rinsing) and let them soak about 5 minutes, I can typically get 6 bottles in the bucket at a time. The pour them out down the inside wall of the bucket from the very top to wash the sides down. When done I dump the iodophor and mix up another gallon just for the bucket. There is nothing left alive.

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I use several TBSs of bleach in the sink in my brewing kitchen in the basement. It is a 10 gal (plastic) sink that is deep and holds 2 cases of 16 oz bottles at a time (or one bucket).

If I am sanitizing for usage right away I will drain and rinse then set them on the drying tree.

I take pretty good notes of my brews and ALWAYS take extra care when sanitizing. I've never had any problems with any of my batches. I don't consider myself lucky here, I just do as is required and take no shortcuts.

I do use 1-Step every once in a while, but even a little bit of bleach diluted with water sanitizes on contact.

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I would assume that soaking in bleach solution, without a rinse step, would endanger the yeast you need for bottle conditioning. But what about Star San acid sanitizer. It is no-rinse for most aplications (fermenters, racking tubes etc), so would it work to just soak and drain bottles in a properly diluted solution of Star san, then bottle right into them (even if still wet)?
Hey everyone. This is my first post and I'm a newbie myself (3 batches).

This seems like one area that everyone does something different. The guys at my HBS swear on Star San. So I fill a big plastic Rubbermaid tub with 5 gallons water and 1 oz. Star San. I put about 24 bottles in at a time to soak for 5 min right before I bottle. Then I just pull them out, line them up and fill. No rinsing and I was told not to even worry if the bottles still have some bubbles from the Star San.

Seems to work so far but I end up using alot of Star San after I use it for the fermenter, carboy, bottles, etc. And Star San is kinda expensive.

So is Star San overkill?
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Here's another question:

My homebrew shop sells a sanitizer called Easy Clean (No-Rinse Cleaner)
The label sez it cleans with Oxygen, and contains: Percarbonates.

So's I look at the label of oxy-clean I just got to get labels off my bottles (works very very well) and see that it contains: sodium percarbonate and sodium carbonate.

Same stuff? Seems so. Anybody use oxy clean as a sanitizer? Stuff is affordable.

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Here's another question:

My homebrew shop sells a sanitizer called Easy Clean (No-Rinse Cleaner)
The label sez it cleans with Oxygen, and contains: Percarbonates.

So's I look at the label of oxy-clean I just got to get labels off my bottles (works very very well) and see that it contains: sodium percarbonate and sodium carbonate.

Same stuff? Seems so. Anybody use oxy clean as a sanitizer? Stuff is affordable.
According to http://www.greatcleaners.com/ogi_retail/images/products/M51515.pdf Oxiclean is a "White granular mixture; forms oxygen, hydrogen peroxide and soda ash when mixed with water."

So it sounds like it would disinfect. But I don't know what else is mixed in there (fabric softeners?). I would just stick with iodophor. 12 ounces will cost about $8 and last quite a while. You can mix up 5 gallons with 2 teaspoonfuls and sanitize everything you will use. There is no need to rinse since it's such a small concentration, and hospitals use it, so it must be good.


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