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Old 10-04-2012, 07:39 PM   #1
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Default Kegging: Solid pour, good head, No Carb??

Hey guys, another "new to kegging" thread......
My set up is a 4 tap keezer. Bought my kit from Keg Connection, Taprite gauge with 4-way manifold.....I believe they supply 5' or 6' serving lines.
I kegged my beer, purged O2, pressurized it to 30psi, disconnected gas and let it chill at 39* for a day. After chill time, purged, set reg to 12 psi and reconnected gas. It sat like this for 15 days in the keezer. I don't believe I have any leaks, tank pressure has not moved. Connected serving line and poured a few pints. I got a strong pour and a few inches of head....looked like a good beer. The foam went away after a few gulps, it was pretty much uncarbed beer.....only a very very small amount of bubbles coming up from the bottom of the glass. Beer is a pumpkin ale, a tad over 6% abv.
I'm guessing everyone will say to give it more time, which I will....but most of the threads I've read have people getting good carb after 2 weeks?
Just curious to see if anyone has experieced this before??? Thanks!

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Old 10-04-2012, 07:47 PM   #2
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I'm not familiar with this method. I simply purge O2 with 30PSI, a few pulls of the relief valve, leave gas connected and set to whatever pressure you want, depending on how fast you want to carb. All of this happens in the fridge and the beer stays cold the entire time. At 20-25 PSI I'm generally carbed in under a week.

If the pour is fast and furious, you might want to bump the serving pressure down as those are relatively short lines.

Leaks can be hard to detect. Use keg lube on the lid and posts and spritz everything with soapy water or star san, look for bubbles. Even the tiniest leak can affect carbonation.

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Yeah, my discription was probably unclear. Keg is in the keezer staying cold the whole time, set at 12psi. waited 2 weeks and wasn't carbed yet. I did put a good coat of keg lube on everything.

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Yeah, my discription was probably unclear. Keg is in the keezer staying cold the whole time, set at 12psi. waited 2 weeks and wasn't carbed yet. I did put a good coat of keg lube on everything.
You know what I'm going to blame it on? I think it's the relatively short serving line. Here's why- you have it at a perfect psi (unless your regulator is reading low), and the perfect temp, for the proper amount of time. Something is "knocking" the co2 out of solution, resulting in the bigger head.

For one pour, I"d try purging the keg, and pouring it at like 2 psi. See if the beer seems carbed up then, with no or little head. If so, that means that the serving lines are too short.
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Try backing off the serving pressure, pour off the first 4oz of beer (that was sitting in the line/dip-tube), then pour a half pint and try it. Try say, 6 PSI.

If that still isn't carbed, you probably have a leak. 2 weeks is plenty of time if the beer is sub-40 degrees the whole time.

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Try backing off the serving pressure, pour off the first 4oz of beer (that was sitting in the line/dip-tube), then pour a half pint and try it. Try say, 6 PSI.

If that still isn't carbed, you probably have a leak. 2 weeks is plenty of time if the beer is sub-40 degrees the whole time.
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Believe it or not, I was typing it at the same time! When I posted it, there was yours, too! See my post above yours where I mentioned his lines were short!
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Believe it or not, I was typing it at the same time! When I posted it, there was yours, too! See my post above yours where I mentioned his lines were short!
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I know that it seems like I'm blaming all carb issues on serving line length, and I don't mean to. But I've gone from 5' lines, to 6', to 8' to 10' over the last 5 years. And you can pour a much better beer with 10' lines, for almost all carb levels up to about 16 psi at 40 degrees. The only downside to longer lines is it takes a few seconds longer to pour a beer. So it's usually the quickest, cheapest, and easiest fix.
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I know that it seems like I'm blaming all carb issues on serving line length, and I don't mean to. But I've gone from 5' lines, to 6', to 8' to 10' over the last 5 years. And you can pour a much better beer with 10' lines, for almost all carb levels up to about 16 psi at 40 degrees. The only downside to longer lines is it takes a few seconds longer to pour a beer. So it's usually the quickest, cheapest, and easiest fix.
I agree. I have between 8-10' lines and I never have issues. I generally serve between 10-12 PSI and my beer stays at around 36*.
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Okay guys....I will give that a try tonight and report back. Thanks!
It just bothers me that so many people on here use 5'-6' lines and never have a problem....and I assume Keg Connection knows what they're doing when they figure line length with their kits.

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