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Old 08-16-2013, 08:54 PM   #711
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CrazyIrishman,
Wow! I only brew soda but have been having carbonation problems up the wazoo (tons of foam in my lines and flat soda). I have never tried putting 60PSI into my sodas though. Do you upping my PSI would do the trick?

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Old 08-17-2013, 12:55 AM   #712
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You need to make sure that your soda is dispensed at 32deg f or lower. Other wise you will have foaming and break out. Leading to flat soda. What I normally do is carb the soda at 60psi for a couple weeks until it is as fizzy as I like then back down to 20psi to push it.

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Old 08-17-2013, 01:25 AM   #713
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I've never heard of kegging soda for a few weeks. That seems like a really long time to tie up a keg (especially for me since I have only 1).
I'll try jacking up the pressure and then dialing back to 20PSI for bottling.
Do you agitate the keg to carb quicker?

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Old 08-17-2013, 01:35 AM   #714
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nope just let it sit at 60psi for a couple weeks. It might be ready sooner but I take my time with it. I have like 20 kegs so I don't have to rush

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Old 08-17-2013, 05:03 AM   #715
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Jealous! I might be scoring a friend's fridge tomorrow so I can get another corny keg or two.
Some of the sodas I am working on use real fruit juice. I hate the taste of sodium benzoate and haven't found a good preservative. I would guess that after a few weeks of carbing my sodas would probably spoil. Any thoughts on that?

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Old 08-18-2013, 12:50 AM   #716
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CrazyIrishman,
Wow! I only brew soda but have been having carbonation problems up the wazoo (tons of foam in my lines and flat soda). I have never tried putting 60PSI into my sodas though. Do you upping my PSI would do the trick?

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I'd definitely recommend getting proper length lines for your soda. You should also consider adding 2 mixer sticks to the tube in your keg (discussed in this thread). I did that and went from serious foaming problems (like you describe, foamy pour and then no carb in the beverage) to zero foaming problems with my root beer (which i was having even with longer serving lines).

As for carbing, I've had success doing this:
  • Chill keg to serving temp (I do 38 since that's what I serve my beers at)
  • Put on gas at 35 PSI and roll the keg on the ground for a few minutes. For me this gets it pretty close, though it'll still absorb more as you leave it on gas in your kegerator. This should allow you to serve promptly without worrying about your fruit juices spoiling.
  • Leave it on 35 PSI for serving (I know some people carb high and serve low but that's only ever made the foaming worse for me), which shouldn't give you trouble if your lines are long enough.
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I have one of the Epoxy mixers I got a few months ago but never put it in. I just brewed up a batch and put the Epoxy mixer in the dip tube. In a couple days, I'll report back.
Also, my hose IS long: 25' of 3/16" tubing. Hopefully things will be different with the Epoxy mixer, but the long hose didn't help much on its own. I got crazy pressure and I had to really force my Blichmann beer gun closed when bottling.

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I have one of the Epoxy mixers I got a few months ago but never put it in. I just brewed up a batch and put the Epoxy mixer in the dip tube. In a couple days, I'll report back.
Also, my hose IS long: 25' of 3/16" tubing. Hopefully things will be different with the Epoxy mixer, but the long hose didn't help much on its own. I got crazy pressure and I had to really force my Blichmann beer gun closed when bottling.

Reporting back soon,
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Sorry, didn't see that you were trying to bottle the sodas off the keg. In that case you'll definitely need to turn down the serving pressure while bottling (though in my experience you can leave it high when serving into a normal drinking vessel).
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I need to experiment with mine... I think it will be ready tomorrow, sitting in the beer fridge under 20 PSI for the next 24 hours.

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In the original post of this thread, a carbonation chart is referred to. If I use this chart and carbonate using method #1, set and forget, do I need to make any adjustments for head space? Asked differently, should I do anything different with a 5 gallon keg that is half full of uncarbed beer vs. a 5 gallon keg that is 100% full of uncarbed beer?

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