Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Bottling/Kegging > Issues carbing Irish Dry Stout with beer gas




Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-29-2012, 07:44 PM   #1
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 62
Likes Given: 2

Default Issues carbing Irish Dry Stout with beer gas

I started carbonating my Irish Dry Stout with a 75/25 nitrogen and CO2 blend at 5 psi 8 days ago. When I want to pour my beer using my stout tap it came out very flat and had no body to it. Since then I increased it to 10 psi. Just wondering what recommendations people have using a gas blend for what psi and for how long it should take to carbonate fully.


__________________
Kegged: Irish Red Ale
Irish Dry Stout

Secondary: Dry Mead
galacticbrewing12 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-29-2012, 07:50 PM   #2
Thirsty Zymurgist...
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
usfmikeb's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Leesburg, Virginia
Posts: 3,122
Liked 229 Times on 196 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Nitrogen doesn't absorb into beer, and your pressure is too low to carbonate it. Push that sucker up to 25 PSI.


__________________
Primary: Apfelwein 6/12, Peach Pyment 2/12, Cherry Melomel 9/12
Secondary: Douglah Capsicumel 10/11, Chocolate Mead 10/11, Bochet Mead 11/11, Cranberry Mead 11/11, Elderbarrel Flanders Kriek 9/12, Skeeter Pee 6/12
Bottle Conditioning: Spiced Mead 5/11, Peach Mango Mead 7/11, Spiced Cherry Dubbel 8/11
Kegged: English Barleywine 11/11, Chocolate Stout 2/12, Apfelwein 2/12
On Tap: Porter 10/12, Cherry Dubbel 9/12, Yooper's Pale Ale 11/12
Gallons in 2012: 88
usfmikeb is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-29-2012, 07:58 PM   #3
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 62
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by usfmikeb View Post
Nitrogen doesn't absorb into beer, and your pressure is too low to carbonate it. Push that sucker up to 25 PSI.
Thanks for the recommendation. How long do you think it will take?
__________________
Kegged: Irish Red Ale
Irish Dry Stout

Secondary: Dry Mead
galacticbrewing12 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-29-2012, 08:25 PM   #4
Yeast Welfare Technician
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
daksin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,271
Liked 178 Times on 152 Posts
Likes Given: 192

Default

Yea, in the future it may be easier to carb on CO2 to 1.5-2 volumes depending on your preference, and then put it on the beer gas for dispensing.
__________________
I can't be arsed to keep up this list of what's in the fermenters, but hey, check out the cool brewery I'm opening up!

twitter.com/twokidsbrewing .. facebook.com/twokidsbrewing .. twokidsbrewing.com
daksin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-29-2012, 08:34 PM   #5
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 62
Likes Given: 2

Default

I actually had it on CO2 for a week prior and purged it before transferring it to beer gas. What is the benefit of using CO2 first?
__________________
Kegged: Irish Red Ale
Irish Dry Stout

Secondary: Dry Mead
galacticbrewing12 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-29-2012, 09:12 PM   #6
Yeast Welfare Technician
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
daksin's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 3,271
Liked 178 Times on 152 Posts
Likes Given: 192

Default

Just faster carb times at lower pressure. Nitro beers are usually carbed to a low level, plus beer gas is more expensive than CO2.
__________________
I can't be arsed to keep up this list of what's in the fermenters, but hey, check out the cool brewery I'm opening up!

twitter.com/twokidsbrewing .. facebook.com/twokidsbrewing .. twokidsbrewing.com
daksin is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-30-2012, 06:35 PM   #7
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
 
beergolf's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: collingswood, nj
Posts: 3,089
Liked 188 Times on 163 Posts
Likes Given: 47

Default

I carb mine with CO2 set at 5-8. lbs (my fridge is at 45) for a week or two and then hook it up to the beergas. I set that to 30-35 lbs and get a perfect pour.
beergolf is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-31-2012, 03:29 PM   #8
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 62
Likes Given: 2

Default

Thanks for all the feedback. I went ahead and adjusted it to 30 psi. I plan on checking it in a week to see how things have progressed. Being that this was my first interaction with nitrogen, I am just now learning how it acts differently than CO2.
__________________
Kegged: Irish Red Ale
Irish Dry Stout

Secondary: Dry Mead
galacticbrewing12 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 12-18-2012, 05:41 PM   #9
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 62
Likes Given: 2

Default

Well just to report back I went ahead and adjusted the stout to 30 psi for about 10 days and it had a great pour. It had the nice cascading effect that we expect to see with stouts on nitrogen. This method seemed to work well and have recently kegged my Oatmeal stout and plan on checking on it after a week to see where it is at. I hoping to have all three beers ready to serve for Christmas dinner next Tuesday.


__________________
Kegged: Irish Red Ale
Irish Dry Stout

Secondary: Dry Mead
galacticbrewing12 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools
Display Modes


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Priming Sugar v. DME for carbing a dry irish stout brewinginct Beginners Beer Brewing Forum 3 03-03-2011 05:33 PM
Carbing Issues bigin31 General Techniques 6 11-07-2009 01:08 AM
Force Carbing Issues ISUBrew79 Bottling/Kegging 3 10-14-2008 08:54 PM
Carbing Issues PeteOz77 Bottling/Kegging 10 04-17-2008 09:48 PM
Force Carbing issues... Brewing Clamper Bottling/Kegging 14 08-22-2006 12:46 AM



FOLLOW US ON