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Old 12-15-2012, 05:29 PM   #1
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Hi all,

I just picked up my first 5# tank of CO2 at my local homebrew store. The tank they gave me hasn't been hydro tested since 2005. I noticed at the store but they gave me some story about how it was fine and they weren't passing on the cost of the hydro test.

I should have put up some more resistance but I didn't because they were low on stock and I didn't want to come back. The tank doesn't have any big dents or anything but should I be ok with this? It's be kind of a pain to go back and try to get another one but I will if it's unsafe to have an expired tank

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Old 12-15-2012, 05:47 PM   #2
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There is more danger in filling an expired tank than there is in using it, but there is still some question. However there is no way in hell I would go into a store that is knowingly filling out of date tanks. When a tank does blow you don't want to be anywhere around it. Personally after seeing the after affects of a blown scuba tank I would turn them in.

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Old 12-15-2012, 05:47 PM   #3
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You won't be able to get it re-filled until an h-test has been done. If your tank is currently full, use it up, it will be fine. I get my tanks serviced at the local fire extinguisher company. They are the cheapest alternative in my area.

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Old 12-15-2012, 08:31 PM   #4
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I want to know who they had fill the tank... are they filling them in house? Or sending them out?

No legitimate supplier will fill a tank that doesn't have a valid hydro test. I don't mess around with compressed gas safety, and I have no tolerance for "professionals" that ignore national safety standards/regulations. I wouldn't hesitate to report them, not sure to who though. OSHA maybe? CGA?

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It is very unlikely that your tank will fail any time soon. Some people on the board have tanks dating back to pre-WWI. Failures happen, but the valve is more likely to be a problem. There is also a blow-out disk in the valve, which will go first. A few people have had this happen; it's exciting, so I hear.

I'd go ahead and use it. When it's time to refill, go to a welding shop that exchanges tanks and exchange it. The shop will test it, refill it and pass it onto someone else. The first time I took my old steel tank in, they asked me if aluminum was okay. I asked what the extra charge would be. "None, we just like to save the steel tanks for people who demand them. They pass the same hydro test"

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I want to know who they had fill the tank... are they filling them in house? Or sending them out?

No legitimate supplier will fill a tank that doesn't have a valid hydro test. I don't mess around with compressed gas safety, and I have no tolerance for "professionals" that ignore national safety standards/regulations. I wouldn't hesitate to report them, not sure to who though. OSHA maybe? CGA?
I would start with DOT.
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Why not just used it and then bring it back to your LHBS?

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Why not just used it and then bring it back to your LHBS?
I have no problem with doing this I'm just new to kegging and concerned about safety while I use it if it hasn't been certified in 6 years
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I would go ahead and use it then bring it back to them and make sure you get a passed one when they swap it out for you. I would also make sure that if you go back to them that they do not charge you to do a hydro test on a tank that is 'new' to you from them. I would bring my receipt if i have it when you do the trade in and not accept an expired one. If they try it again, I would find elsewhere to get gas. Not worth the hassle/cost/potential for catastrophic gas dispursal.

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Old 12-17-2012, 06:16 PM   #10
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Hydro dates are only for filling. Both for safety and legality standards you can use an expired tank - you just cant fill it. Find a 20 year old tank in your basement that's full - no problem, use it. Just don't refill it. Any failures are going to be on filling, not while it's being emptied.

You're safe - just make sure you note the problem when you swap it out and if they continue to try to give you expired tanks talk to the manager. That's not cool.

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