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Old 07-10-2009, 04:59 PM   #11
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Maybe I'm confused but why don't you just buy this? Bottle Wax :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies
I have used it and it works great melted in a double boiler in about 10-15 minutes, obviously the consistency is right, and it comes in a ton of colors. I melted about 1/4 to 1/3 of the bag did 24 wine bottles and still have about 1/2 of that wax left for the next time. I would say you will get more than the 65 bottles they say depending how thick you go of course.

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Old 07-10-2009, 06:48 PM   #12
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Wonder if you could get crayons in a single color too.
go to http://www.crayolastore.com/configurator.asp and pick four colors (or the same color four times) You will get 16 of each color you pick (if you pick all the same you get 64 of that color)
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Were you able to let it cool and then heat it up again to do more bottles?

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I am going to experiment with this tonight while I try and wax some bottles. The first ones I used just straight crayons... although it was very thin it worked. After seeing this post with the glue sticks I think this might be the perfect thing to thicken up the wax a little for bottling. I used white wax to bottle a red wine... looks kinda cool

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So according to conpewter it would take 12 crayons to 20 glue sticks to get the right consistancy. According to the internet a single crayon is 5 grams of mostly paraffin wax with a small amount of colorant. So 60 grams of paraffin. Since glue sticks come in various lengths/diameters 4"-10"L x .25"-.625"D we are close to a universal formula. Conpewter (or anyone else experimenting), any chance you could weigh one of the glue sticks you used? I'm leaning towards just buying the paraffin wax used in canning jellies and colorant used in candle making if it is cheaper overall, got to price the colorant...

Edit: One of the sealing wax write-ups used RIT dye as a colorant... Should be pretty cheap.


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I don't seem to have any more of the glue sticks to weigh, they were the normal size gluesticks from Meyer though. Good to know about the dyes and paraffin, I'll see how the cost breakdown is when I do a whole batch sometime.

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I don't seem to have any more of the glue sticks to weigh, they were the normal size gluesticks from Meyer though. Good to know about the dyes and paraffin, I'll see how the cost breakdown is when I do a whole batch sometime.
Hey, sorry for digging up an old thread but I had a question, conpewter, on your method. I see you used a soda can. So, you just added the glue sticks to the can and put the can directly over a propane/gas burner? Then add the crayons, mix, etc.?

Sounds simple expect putting that can over an open flame. Let me know, thanks!
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I don't mean to keep an old thread alive but this piqued my interest since I work as an adhesive chemist for a hotmelt adhesive company. No joke.

The whole issue with this is the relatively high melting point/softening point of the adhesive which is probably >200F to get to a desireable viscosity to mix with crayons and pour over the bottle. Using adhesive is also going increase adhesion to the bottle and cap making it a pain to get off vs. just wax. It also won't be brittle enough to just crack off

I would just buy the premade bottling wax and be done with it. http://www.northernbrewer.com/winema...-red-1-lb.html

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I used a water bath to melt the hot glue sticks and crayons. Once the hot glue was melted the wax from the crayons mixed in quite easily. Overall though I'd try it with parafin next time or just buy the bottle wax. You could always buy the bottle wax and modify the color with crayons.

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I used a water bath to melt the hot glue sticks and crayons. Once the hot glue was melted the wax from the crayons mixed in quite easily. Overall though I'd try it with parafin next time or just buy the bottle wax. You could always buy the bottle wax and modify the color with crayons.
I just wanted to say I used this method last night and it turned out beautifully! Thanks again
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