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Old 02-02-2009, 03:54 AM   #1
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Default Firestone Challenger Parts - Need Help

I recently acquired several Firestone kegs that are of the older type and can't seem to locate where I can get these parts. I have pictures below.





This is the kegs connections they came off of.

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they have them here Firestone Ball Lock Keg Parts :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies and here O-Ring Set :: Midwest Supplies Homebrewing and Winemaking Supplies

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Those at Midwest show the new style Firestone Keg parts, not the older one as shown in the pictures.

The older style have a nylon seal on the gas side and a tubular seal on the liquid side with a flat gasket on the lid. It is hard to see in the pictures but there are no "O" rings there.

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This is what I picked up from a thread on this last week.

The plastic dip tube can't be replaced; they aren't manufactured anymore. Don't pitch it.

The white nylon spacers: Here

The poppets: Here (I think these are the ones... they certainly look like them)

I haven't seen anything about the o-rings. The post ones are the same, and I haven't tried the large one yet. The dip tube ones are definitely different, but I haven't found a source for them yet. Anyone else?

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another thread here mentions drilling out the gas side to accept the metal gas dip tube. I have one similar to your picture and I plan to drill it tonight. I did come across a plastic dip tube for it in another keg I recently bought but I'd rather have the metal one. The Williams site does have a god description of the posts. I like that they list the thread sizes.

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Please report back on how the drilling goes. I have an extra gas dip tube and would be glad to get rid of that plastic one.

Why do kegs even have gas dip tubes? Seems to me that you only need a dip tube for the liquid side, and just need a sealed opening for the gas in.

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I have kegs with both plastic and steel varieties of gas-in tubes and have to confess that I hadn't realised that the steel ones weren't a straight substitute for the plastic ones. However, I suspect that you could do away with the in diptube altogether if you piled two or maybe three of the diptube washers up.

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I just got an order of the Nylon inserts and new posts from williamsbrewing.com, and have found that they do not fit. They are too tall (inserts and posts) and the posts don't screw onto the keg. When I hold the old and new side by side, you can see the difference in height (old on the right). It looks more like a Firestone V, but isn't I don't think...


Here you can see the difference in the nylon insert. I thought at first the old was just worn, but it is shorter.

You can also see the busted poppet from the new post - not sure if I can still use it. The site said for older Firestone with no V or VI imprint on the keg which is what I have:


I'm thinking of shaving down the new isert to the smaller height - anyone know for sure if that's the right size? I bought 6 and two more came with the new posts, but hate to screw them up. Also - in the post above you mention only in the gas line, but I had them in both sides.

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I got a set of the inserts the other day and thought that they were too tall too, but I was able to get the threading started and cranked down on them. I think that they're supposed to work like those crushable nylon washers on a regulator. You crank them down once and then forget about them. I was able to completely tighten the posts with some elbow grease. And they do go on both sides.

That said, I'm using that keg for holding sanitizer for my own use instead of beer for the time being.

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I'm glad someone started a thread about these kegs, I have one also, and have had absolutly no luck finding parts. I subscribed this thread, hopefully one of us can source some parts.

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