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Old 05-11-2007, 04:53 AM   #1
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The subject of carbonating beer with dry ice comes up pretty often, and I got a shipment of food today with a BIG block of the stuff, so I decided to experiment a little.

On the bright side, it worked!

Unfortunately, it's probably a very dangerous way to carbonate beer (either in bottles or kegs). As many have pointed out, dry ice sublimates rapidly in liquid, creating large bubbles that do not readily dissolve into solution. This causes a pressure buildup in the head space that could VERY likely lead to bottle (or keg) bombs. The pressure buildup is so rapid that a Corny keg's pressure relief valve would probably be overwhelmed. The only way to decrease the pressure is to violently shake the vessel, causing the gas to be absorbed into solution. I doubt you could successfully achieve that with a 5 gallon keg, and it's impractical to shake every bottle of beer you fill.

Here's the video I made that shows a successful trial with a plastic soda bottle. Note that ALL of the dry ice that I put into the bottle was used up, but if I hadn't shaken the bottle, it likely would've exploded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-MBJlBHRkE

I'm sure the ensuing discussion will debate more ways of doing this successfully, but my official stance is:
DON'T USE DRY ICE FOR CARBONATION!!!
Priming sugar and gas cylinder refills are cheap. Using dry ice in closed containers is always a bad idea.

Oh, and if you're wondering why the instructions in the video are so explicit...it's because I know a few of you are going to try this at home even though I said not to. I'd rather give you enough info not to hurt yourself than leave things unexplained.


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Old 05-11-2007, 05:40 AM   #2
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haha. nice.

i'm glad you give these warnings, as i hope no one will be stupid enough to just let it sit in their hands to explode, or put too much dry ice and explode in their hands. hopefully your warnings will be enough.

i'm also glad there weren't any mishaps on your end with this.
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Old 05-11-2007, 05:59 AM   #4
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The plastic bottle allowed me to use the "squeeze test" to see if I was actually managing the pressure by shaking. If the bottle got hard to the touch, I could unscrew the cap and avoid a bottle bomb. You wouldn't be afforded that "sanity check" with a glass bottle or with a keg.

The video was actually my second attempt. Against my better judgment, I used room temperature liquid during the first try along with a larger chunk of dry ice. I wound up having to open the cap to relieve the pressure.
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How about hooking a 2.5 gallon corney onto a paint mixer...
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How about hooking a 2.5 gallon corney onto a paint mixer...
You have no way of knowing whether the pressure is becoming too great until it's too late.
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Old 05-11-2007, 03:45 PM   #7
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In high school we made rootbeer in our "IPC" or Integrated Physics and Chemistry class.

Our teacher used a 5 gallon GOTT cooler to carbonate with. He put the flat rootbeer in the cooler then a big block of dry ice. He sat on the cooler lid and every once in a while let it burp to releive the pressure.

It came out with good carbonation.

Besides explosions carbing with dryice probubly isn't very sanitary...
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... and the Papazian Award for "Most Likely To Become A One-Handed Brewer" goes to....


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Yuri, you have put together some really sweet ass videos lately! Kudos! And keep 'em coming.
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Did you see some of the related videos of some 'tards trying to blow their hands off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTP4yp8y_NA


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