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Old 08-05-2013, 05:06 PM   #1
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I am a few days away from getting the rest of the parts I need to finish up my nitro tap and I have a few questions.

I have a freshly brewed guinness clone that is also a few days away from going into a keg. From what I can gather, I should carbonate it on pure CO2 up to about 1.5-2.0 volumes then push it with my beer gas at around 25-30psi. I want to serve it around 45F so that gives me a CO2 carbing range of about 3-8psi.

Does anyone have suggestions for the initial carb level of a Guinness Clone?

Also, when I put it on beergas @ 30psi how will that affect my carb level. I don't know the specific makeup of my beer gas, its either 75/25 or 70/30. This may be over simplified math, but since it is 25-30% CO2, does that effectively make the carbonation level 25-30% of 30psi? That would equal roughly 7.5-9psi of pure CO2.

Hopefully my questions made a bit of sense. I feel like I'm just rambling.

Thanks for any help.

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I've done many stouts on nitro including a Guinness clone. I CO2 carb at 5psi then switch to 25psi of beer gas for serving. I usually leave it on the beer gas for a week or so before tapping. Works every time, but everyone's setup is different.

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What is your serving temperature?

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I am a few days away from getting the rest of the parts I need to finish up my nitro tap and I have a few questions.

I have a freshly brewed guinness clone that is also a few days away from going into a keg. From what I can gather, I should carbonate it on pure CO2 up to about 1.5-2.0 volumes then push it with my beer gas at around 25-30psi. I want to serve it around 45F so that gives me a CO2 carbing range of about 3-8psi.

Does anyone have suggestions for the initial carb level of a Guinness Clone?

Also, when I put it on beergas @ 30psi how will that affect my carb level. I don't know the specific makeup of my beer gas, its either 75/25 or 70/30. This may be over simplified math, but since it is 25-30% CO2, does that effectively make the carbonation level 25-30% of 30psi? That would equal roughly 7.5-9psi of pure CO2.

Hopefully my questions made a bit of sense. I feel like I'm just rambling.

Thanks for any help.
Guinness is carbed to 1.2 vol. I suggest keeping the carb level at or under 1.8 vol, especially since you're using a higher serving temp. At that temp you may have problems with foaming if you carb it much over 1.2 vol. Keep in mind that pouring the beer raises the temp a few degrees, so if you want to drink 45° beer, you should store it and serve it at ~42°.

The math for beer gas is more complicated than what you have posted above. Rather than try to explain it in a way that makes sense, I'll just give you a link to a carbonation calculator that works for blended gasses.

http://mcdantim.mobi/easypsig.html
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I've done many stouts on nitro including a Guinness clone. I CO2 carb at 5psi then switch to 25psi of beer gas for serving. I usually leave it on the beer gas for a week or so before tapping. Works every time, but everyone's setup is different.
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