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Old 02-16-2005, 08:48 PM   #31
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If they are not returned the brewery has to invest $5 for a new case and glass to put back in the line. If this is not expressingly clear please email me at pa_beer_fanatic@hotmail.com and I will explain further.
Thanks for the explanation. But wasn't the $5 you mention paid for by the consumer. So, effectively, you bought the bottles? I used to get some local beer in Boulder Colorado that worked like that. The stuff was dirt cheap as long as you brought back the empties. They charged something like $8-10 to make sure you brought it back.

In other words, don't the financial incentives urge the consumer to return the bottles, but if they don't, well, the brewery already got paid for them anyway?
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Old 02-16-2005, 08:49 PM   #32
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Oh, and what brewery, if you don't mind my asking. I've had some good brews in PA.

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Old 02-16-2005, 08:56 PM   #33
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buying in michigan, most stores handle all the returned bottles the same way - typically they go into a machine that reads bar codes and prints a receipt that you take to the cashier. Inside the machine is a hopper - all the bottles go together - regardless of the type - miller lowlife or heavy reusable bottles. Some kid comes and replaces the hopper when it gets full, takes it to the back of the store where they have a crusher and dumps the bottles - actually, many of the kids delight in the sound of breaking glass, so throw the bottles one by one (also a good way to kill time they are being paid for). Your precious reusable bottles become shards just like the buttwiper bottles. So, if I keep a few back, I feel I am actually saving a good bottle from an early grave.

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Old 02-16-2005, 10:02 PM   #34
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Default Janx, Check out the Last Name - Straub

I am a member of the Straub Brewing family. Check out www.straubbeer.com for more information. I'm a 19 year old college student in Chemical Engineering at Penn State. Thats why I'm so ardent about respecting brewery property. Sorry if I come off as cocky or whatever.

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Old 02-16-2005, 10:06 PM   #35
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But wasn't the $5 you mention paid for by the consumer. So, effectively, you bought the bottles? .....

In other words, don't the financial incentives urge the consumer to return the bottles, but if they don't, well, the brewery already got paid for them anyway?
No the consumer does not own the bottles. There is an industry standard $1.50 deposit as the incentive on the bottles and case. It has been $1.50 for many decades because things like that are hard to change. Fifty years ago $1.50 covered everything and if you didn't return it thats your fault. Now if you don't return the bottles the brewery gets your $1.50 but is still at a loss of $3.50. The price of the case does not cover the bottles for returnables. The cost of non returnable bottles is covered by the cost of the case, thats why they are yours to keep or recycle. Anything else I need to clear up??
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Old 02-16-2005, 10:14 PM   #36
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Nope thanks!

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