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Old 03-31-2013, 03:52 AM   #21
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I'm now wary of the bottles with just a little thin ring below the top. They can crack easily with a wing capper. The glass on those seems to be thinner at the top as well.

Last weekend, I was bottling a 5-gallon batch of AG Milk Chocolate Stout. I used my best clean bottles first (the ones with the nice, thick collar below the top), but came up a few short and had to grab the ones with the little thin ring. I was being very careful with the wing capper, but it did no good. After cracking three and losing precious ounces of my stout, I gave up on those bottles and grabbed some decent ones out of the garage, de-labeled, cleaned and sanitized them quickly to finish the bottling session.

After cleaning up, I went through my entire bottle collection and tossed all of the thin ringed ones in the trash. I won't even bother de-labeling those anymore. Fortunately, for every batch I bottle, I keg three.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:07 PM   #22
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+1 on the wing capper comments. The bottles that have given me trouble are the light-weight glass bottles used by some breweries. New Belgium is one that comes to mind. Although I've never had one break at opening they sometimes break during bottling, especially when I've tried to use my wing capper.

Now I use an old bench-top capper that my dad used for bottling his beer back in the 1950's. Ugly as sin but still works great!

As far as using the oven goes, I sterilize my bottles in the oven and haven't had any problems with breakage. I do put them into the oven cold, preheat slowly and then allow them to cool naturally over several hours. I don't think that process adds any stresses to the glass. It may actually temper it a little.

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Old 03-31-2013, 01:12 PM   #23
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Ugly as sin
No joke!
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:24 PM   #24
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That's so ugly, it's pretty!

I want one.
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Old 03-31-2013, 01:39 PM   #25
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Going against the trend here: anything wrong with your opener???

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That's so ugly, it's pretty!

I want one.
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I know I'm kinda weird but I dig stuff like that!
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Old 03-31-2013, 07:03 PM   #27
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Going against the trend here: anything wrong with your opener???
That's a good point. The first bottle was opened by myself with a standard hand bottle opener that's been used 1000 times. Second bottle I used a different opener. Third bottle I changed to a third different opener, and asked my grown son (actually he took the opener out of my hand fearing I was about to screw up another), and the same thing happened! We thought we were cursed! Fourth bottle was fine, and so forth...

I am leaning toward the wing capper might be the culprit. It does not seem to be adjustable, and the metal clips that seat under the glass bottle lip actually grab and squeeze the bottle, rather than just provide counter resistance for the crown to push the cap on.

I'm going on the internet to find the Ferarri bench capper for our next batch. I also ordered reconditioned cornies from kegerator.com.
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I utilize a variety of bottles and handle them all the same regarding cleaning, storing and sanitizing. Last night when cracking open a few to taste our latest batch of Imperial IPA, I literally broke off 3 bottle necks in a row! I almost started to cry by the third one since again I had to dump the contents down the drain for fear of glass shards!

Has this happened to anyone else with any frequency? When popping the cap off, the whole neck breaks!

Thanks!
Gives a new meaning to "cracking open a beer" I guess

Sorry, just had to.
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I got the Ferrari Super Agata bench capper for $38 from midwest. Gotta grease the inside of the bell lightly,as instructions say. It keeps some capped bottles from sticking in the bell. But so far,no malt smells after using the bench capper...

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I got the Ferrari Super Agata bench capper for $38 from midwest. Gotta grease the inside of the bell lightly,as instructions say. It keeps some capped bottles from sticking in the bell. But so far,no malt smells after using the bench capper...
Please update this thread once you've used it and decided if it has fixed the problem. I, for one, would be interested to know if it solves the problem for you.
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