Electric Brewing Supply 30A BCS Giveaway - Last Chance to Enter!


Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Bottling/Kegging > Beer not carbonating in keg?
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-02-2011, 02:07 AM   #1
wilmh
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 26
Default Beer not carbonating in keg?

Today is a week after I've kegged and carbed my 3rd homebrew.

First brew was an Bells Oberon clone extract. Primary fermentation lasted only 12 days. Racked to keg, 20 psi for 3 days, then ~8 psi for a week before first mug. Beer was good and got better as it aged (lasted all of 3.5 weeks). Beer was slightly undercarbed (after a mug was poured, very few bubbles seen in glass). Beer was very good as my first brew ever.

Second brew was an American IPA extract. Primary fermentation lasted 14 days, dry hopped after 7 days. Racked to keg, 20 psi for 3 days, knocked down to ~8 psi for one day, then back up to 20 psi for 3 more days. Back down to ~8 psi. Beer was very young, but I was stubborn and continued to drink as it was my only beer on tap. Beer got better over time, but was also undercarbed.

Third brew was a Fat Tire clone extract. Primary fermentation lasted 21 days, racked to keg. Decided to try force carbonation this time at 10 psi (rocked/shaked full cold keg on my legs for 2 minutes) then let sit at 10 psi in keezer for 6 days. Still under carbed.

What am I doing wrong with the carbonation? What can I try to my Fat Tire clone to help it other than letting it age?

Also.....I'm ready to rack an Oktoberfest (been in the secondary 6+ weeks) and an Apfelwein to kegs tomorrow. I'm hoping to get this figured out so they turn out okay.

__________________
wilmh is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-02-2011, 02:41 AM   #2
jaycount
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Wichita, Kansas
Posts: 1,008
Liked 19 Times on 19 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

Are these kegs in the fridge? I have only been kegging for a couple months now but on all my batches I've stuck it in the fridge at 25ish psi for 24 hours then cut back to 14 or so for another 24-48 until I'm satisfied then I serve at like 5-8psi. It has produced satisfactory results every time for me.

Have you checked for leaks around your regulator/manifold(if you have one)? Do you think the regulator gauge is accurate?

__________________
jaycount is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2011, 12:41 PM   #3
wilmh
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 26
Default

Kegs are in the fridge.

Dual Guage Regulator appears to be in good working shape. It's only 4 month old (was brand new before first homebrew). And while this test is very in accurate, releasing pressure from a keg when the regulator says 10 psi is very different and obviuos than at 30 psi. I think I'm okay with the regulator.

On Saturday, I bumped the Fat Tire clone up to 30 psi for 24 hours, then down to 15 psi for 24 hours. I backed it down to 8 psi and poured another glass last night and am now getting head with a pour and the beer tastes better, but still no CO2 bubbles floating up through the beer after an initial pour.

__________________
wilmh is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2011, 01:22 PM   #4
brew2enjoy
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Delaware
Posts: 934
Liked 36 Times on 31 Posts

Default

Sounds like you may have a bad regulator. If I carbed the way you described, I would have some seriously overcarbed beer. When you connect the gas to the keg, can you hear the gas entering the keg?

__________________
DIY stuff...
- Bar
- S/S mash paddle, PEX manifold
brew2enjoy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-04-2011, 01:30 PM   #5
BigRob
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 636
Liked 25 Times on 18 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Typically I set at 12PSI and leave it sit for 2-3 weeks, I usually shake 2-3 times (2 mins per session) over the course of an hour, at 20PSI, then reduce to 12PSI for 24-36 hours, if I'm rushing. I serve at 12PSI, but I have 10' of 3/16" line.

I don't typically see a lot of bubbles after the initial pour, a little burst after a sip, but nothing like you'd see in a glass of soda.

__________________
BigRob is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2011, 12:59 AM   #6
wilmh
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 26
Default

I could definitely hear the gas going into the keg....as I was shaking, I'd periodically position the keg so I could hear the bubbles of the CO2 going through the beer at the connection.

Well, maybe I'm not patient enough.

I kegged my Oktoberfest and an Apfelwein on Sunday....30 psi and rocked/shaked for about 2 mins each. After 24 hours, I disconnected the gas line for the time I was at work (10 hours), then I purged, dropped the pressure to 8 psi and poured a mug of each. Both are carbonated and taste pretty good. Then I checked the Fat Tire clone and could finally see bubbles in it as well. Part of my problem may have been the dark color of the Fat Tire.

I'm currently sipping a glass of Oktoberfest....almost 30 min after pouring with about 1/3 of a glass left, still seeing bubbles.

__________________
wilmh is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2011, 01:17 PM   #7
JRems
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Mahopac, NY
Posts: 2,229
Liked 58 Times on 50 Posts
Likes Given: 9

Default

What is the temp that you keep your kegerator set to? You should look at a carbonation chart. Your serving pressure should be the same as your carbonation pressure. I usually leave the keg cold at 30 psi for 2 days then step it down to 12-14psi and it is usually carbed perfectly after 4-5 more days. I think you just need to check and adjust your beer according to the carbonation chart. Or it might be you prefer your beers with a slightly higher carbonation. I myself prefer closer to 3 volumes of co2 than the standard 2.5 volumes that's typical.

__________________
JRems is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2011, 01:45 PM   #8
RoadKing
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Bayville, N.J.
Posts: 454
Liked 16 Times on 14 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Are you leaving the gas on the beer the whole time?

__________________
DIRTY GARAGE BREWING CO.
RoadKing is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-06-2011, 03:27 PM   #9
Bobby_M
Vendor and Brewer
HBT_SPONSOR.png
Vendor Ads 
Feedback Score: 2 reviews
 
Bobby_M's Avatar
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Whitehouse Station, NJ
Posts: 22,127
Liked 1029 Times on 685 Posts
Likes Given: 28

Default

It's all temperature related so you need to put a thermometer in your fridge and report back for any good advice.

__________________
BrewHardware.com
Sightglass, Refractometer, Ball Valve, Weldless bulkhead, Thermometer, Decals, Stainless Steel Fittings, Compression Fittings, Camlock Quick Disconnects, Scale, RIMS tube, Plate Chiller, Chugger Pump, Super Clear Silicone Tubing, and more!

New Stuff?
Bobby_M is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 12:13 AM   #10
subliminalurge
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Moline, IL
Posts: 472
Liked 9 Times on 9 Posts

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby_M View Post
It's all temperature related so you need to put a thermometer in your fridge and report back for any good advice.
Put a thermometer in a jug of water in the fridge. The air temp in a fridge can swing pretty widely, while something with some mass to it will hold a pretty consistent temp.
__________________
subliminalurge is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply



Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Need help with non carbonating beer cfrazier77 Bottling/Kegging 7 08-05-2011 12:42 AM
Beer not carbonating twelvebeer Bottling/Kegging 11 02-04-2011 03:25 PM
Beer not carbonating in keg.. arover Bottling/Kegging 23 04-16-2010 10:58 PM
carbonating beer in PET bottles killian Bottling/Kegging 6 07-10-2009 02:08 PM
Re-Carbonating Flat Beer Stew!Brew! Bottling/Kegging 9 09-10-2008 12:26 AM