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Old 02-05-2011, 05:52 AM   #1
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Default Bad flavor when I bottle - can you help

I'm looking or some insights or something that i could do diferently. I stopped bottling my beers after my 6th or 7th batch. That was well over a year ago. I am currently fermenting my 30th beer. My beers have really gotten pretty good. I've come along way with sanitation, controlling my ferementation temps, etc.

However, there is one problem i can't seem to get away from lately - bad tastes (or offf flavors) in my bottled beer. Shortly after i built my keezer, i was kegging everything, not bottling much at all. But after 6 or 8 batches of doing that i missed not being able to have the portability of bottles. I started bottling 10-12 beers from every batch and then kegging the remainder 4 gallons or so. I used a 1 gal bottling bucket and scaled down the amount of priming sugar, or priming DME to about 1/5 the amount needed for a full batch. My beers carb well but i always had some of flavors associated with them. Almost a bandaid like flavor on the worst of them.

After much research i found that bleach can produce silmilar flavors. so i rinsed all my clean bottles several times and put the back into storage. I would sanitize the bottles using the little plunger bowl with a fresh batch of starsan. i then would boil my caps. fill bottles, then cap. Still bad flavors. Then i started putting carbed beer (from my cornies into bottles) still good carbination but i still have some off flavors.

Has anyone experienced something similar or provide me with some help? My keeged beer is awesome so i dont think it is anything up to transferring into kegs (ie fermenting, racking, etc).

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Old 02-05-2011, 06:56 AM   #2
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Are the caps all from the same batch? Where do you store your caps? I know why but I keep coming back to the caps.

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Old 02-05-2011, 12:51 PM   #3
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Are you using a bottling spigot? I was having a similar problem a couple years ago. Finally figured out that I had an infection hiding where the 2 pieces of the bottling spigot are pressed together. Started taking the spigot completely apart (running the spigot under hot water helps) before sanitizing, problem solved.

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Old 02-06-2011, 01:44 PM   #4
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you mean same batch from the manufacturer? I have gone through 2 or 3 bags over the lasst year or so.

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Are the caps all from the same batch? Where do you store your caps? I know why but I keep coming back to the caps.
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Old 02-07-2011, 04:31 PM   #5
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anyone else help?

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What do you use for bottling from the keg?

Also, try replacing some of the bottles with different ones and see if you still get the flavor. I'm guessing that there is a gap in your sanitation somewhere in bottling that is not in your kegging procedure. Start at the beginning and analyze everything to find the most likely causes and try to augment the procedure to eliminate the problem.

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cobra tap fitted with a bottling tube.

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Try replacing the stopper and bottling tube. Also, make sure to sanitize inside the cobra tap before bottling also. I replace my bottling tube and stopper every couple months because they are cheap enough and I don't want to take any chances. When you cut the bottling tube it leaves some pretty rough edges that will harbor crap.

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Rather than bottling why not just get a couple of growlers. Whe you want to take a few with you somewhere mix up a little iodophor solution and sanitize the growler and lid real quick, then pour off a half gallon from the tap. The growled will keep fresh and carbed for several weeks. Takes all of the bottling equipment out of the equation, reducing chances of infection.

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I would actually fill up a growler from the keg and wait a few days just to see if you get off flavors in the growler beer. If you do, then you know the problem is in the transfer to smaller containers. If you don't, then you have more likely pinpointed the problem to bottles and/or caps.

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