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Old 12-14-2006, 07:22 AM   #1
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I've been homebrewing for about two and a half years, but I just did my first cider last night. What a piece of cake to get started! I made a starter of WLP-775 English Cider Yeast with about a quart of apple juice and some yeast nutrient Sunday night and then threw it all together last night for a total of 5.5 gallons of juice with 1 lb of brown sugar added. It's bubbling like crazy and smells great. Why didn't I make one of these sooner?

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Old 12-14-2006, 05:10 PM   #2
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Sounds like a personal problem......

Im making my third batch of cider, but its a cheap Roundys version.

15 bucks for a six gallon batch. Im a college guy so this is strictly for parties only.

Made some organic cider the first time, wow turned more into a wine.



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Old 12-14-2006, 09:47 PM   #3
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I've been homebrewing for about two and a half years, but I just did my first cider last night. Why didn't I make one of these sooner?
I have been harping on about about ciders forever but no one ever took any real notice - That's a shame really. I'm not worth taking notice of but cider is!!!! It's consumption is on the increase again after years of decline in the UK as people discover just how good it can be when it's well made.

Someone (no names, no vitriol.........Okay! It was Edwort! ) started a 'cider' thread in the wine section and gave it the German name and suddenly everyone's thinking it's a 'amazing re-discovered German traditional wine'. No, it's a f*&king cider unless you bought german apple juice.

At least people are giving it a try and that's a positive thing though....
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Someone (no names, no vitriol.........Okay! It was Edwort! ) started a 'cider' thread in the wine section and gave it the German name and suddenly everyone's thinking it's a 'amazing re-discovered German traditional wine'. No, it's a f*&king cider unless you bought german apple juice.

You mean Apfelwein is cider?!?! Yuck, I changed my mind, I'm not making that!!!
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You mean Apfelwein is cider?!?! Yuck, I changed my mind, I'm not making that!!!
It's okay. Just hold your nose whilst drinking it and think of Dusseldorf.

Or boil each glassful with a pound of molasses, a good hand full cloves and 15 cinnamon sticks for the true American cider.....
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:21 PM   #6
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I have been harping on about about ciders forever but no one ever took any real notice - That's a shame really. I'm not worth taking notice of but cider is!!!! It's consumption is on the increase again after years of decline in the UK as people discover just how good it can be when it's well made.

Someone (no names, no vitriol.........Okay! It was Edwort! ) started a 'cider' thread in the wine section and gave it the German name and suddenly everyone's thinking it's a 'amazing re-discovered German traditional wine'. No, it's a f*&king cider unless you bought german apple juice.

At least people are giving it a try and that's a positive thing though....
I don't mean to quibble but is the distinction between cider (hard) and wine ABV or is it more than that? Ed's is ~8.5%.
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I've made 11% ciders. As far as I'm concerned, cider is cider. 8.5% is wimpy wine, but pretty good for cider.

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I don't mean to quibble but is the distinction between cider (hard) and wine ABV or is it more than that? Ed's is ~8.5%.
Apple juice plus extra sugar is just a higher ABV Cider - you can call it Margaret if you like, It's still cider, not a wine.

My personal favorite ciders in the UK have an ABV between 7.5% and 8.5% - Many used to be higher but have dropped there ABV because of tax brackets imposed on Alcohol levels.

France creates some of the best wines (i.e grape based brews) in the world.
Normandy in France also has some fantastic Cidreries. They don't call it apple wine....
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Someone (no names, no vitriol.........Okay! It was Edwort! ) started a 'cider' thread in the wine section and gave it the German name and suddenly everyone's thinking it's a 'amazing re-discovered German traditional wine'. No, it's a f*&king cider unless you bought german apple juice..
I actually started the Apfelwein thread by accident in the Commercial Wine, Mead & Cider section and it was moved to the wine section.

You can call it cider or whatever, but my recipe is for German Apfelwein which is not like any UK sweet cider. I guess you could call it German Dry Cider, but it is a fruit juice fermented with wine yeast.

Call it what you will, but I call it Apfelwein as it tastes just like it.
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Yeah I like cider. I have pondered getting some trees. Maybe FoxWhelp which I believe you can make a good single variety from. This year we just used the stuff from our two other trees, went to the local press. It seems to take quite a long time to mature though.

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