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Old 01-05-2009, 12:50 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

I made Edwort's Apfelwein..with the exception of using the 3068 yeast instead. It is now 6 weeks old and the S.G. is .998....very very dry for my tastes.

This is a 5 gallon batch and I'd like to sweeten it up before I keg it. I already added 5 campden tablets, and sorbate yesterday and will be kegging and backsweetening tomorrow.

My question is..how much will two cans of Apple Juice concentrate sweeten this? what will I hit for a S.G. with two cans of concentrate in 5 gallons of ApfelWein????

Also...I want to carbonate this in the keg at room temp (65F) how much co2 should I put on it, and for how long???

Thanks for any input or advice.

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it will sweeten quite alot, i would sugest adding one then tasting and then adding the secodn one in moderation if your not satisfied.... i am not sure what your FG will be with two cans in it... regular apple juice from concentrate bought already diluted is about 1.050... if the canned stuff is the same when youve diluted it then youll have to do the math, or just add it and find out... but i think your only gonna want to add one of those cans... a single can of cocnetrate makes half a gallon of regular apple juice which is quite sweet... so you would be techinically adding the same ammount of sugar which is in a gallon of rather sweet apple juice... and you wouldnt be diluteing it with water, it would be diluted with dry apfelwein... thats alot of sweetness just trust me... so add carefully

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IIRC Ed says that Sprite is an excellent sweetener for his Apfelwein. As for carbing, start at 20 lbs and check it in three days. If not carbed to your taste give it another couple days. Turn the pressure down and vent the keg before pulling a glass or all you will get is fizz.

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Thanks guys,

I'll add 1 can first and taste it and take a gravity reading....if I think it needs more, I'll slowly add can 2 to taste.

Can't wait to see how this turns out.

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I used 4.5 gallons of juice, 2 cans of concentrate and 1 lb of dextrose for a batch of cider and my OG reading was 1.065. If juice has an OG of 1.050 and a lb of dextrose adds .009 (according to promash), then it looks like each can of concentrate will add .003. In your case, adding a can of concentrate to your 5 gallon batch will give it a gravity of 1.001 or right around there.

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Just an update...I racked my apfelwein to the corny keg...I took a gravity reading and taste test as well with my wine thief. gravity of apfelwein with no additions was .998..I added one can of apple juice concentrate...tasted again, still too dry and not much apple taste..it just wasn't sweet at all for my tastes...so I added the second can of concentrate..better, but still a bit too bitter...I ended up adding 1/4 pound of wildflower honey also along with the two cans of concentrate. the gravity is now: 1.013

I like it better there, but still not satisfied with sweetness and flavor. But it'll do.

I don't know, but I'm just not really happy with this recipe. From all the great and long threads on this apfelwein I was really hoping for some a bit more pleasing to the taste buds. I'd hate to see how dry this is with the original "called for" yeast in Edworts recipe..the 3068 I used still made it too dry for my tastes.

We'll see what the 2 cans of concentrate and 1/4 pound of honey do, after I age it in the corny keg another few weeks.

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flyweed - Did you follow Ed's rule of having three glasses before judging?
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Well..does 3 hydrometer vials count??? ha ha ha.....I tried, seriously, but it was WAY to dry for my taste. Like I said, I got it to 1.012 now, and I think it would probably be about perfect (for my tastes) at about 1.015...maybe the next batch. I can't wait to carb this and chill it down.

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Even in eds posts he says to expect a gravity of .999. This is much drier than many beers, maybe you were expecting something with higher FG. Maybe next time if you want to change it add some complex sugars that wont be as easily used by the yeast. Note: I'm currently happily buzzed and suggestions should be used at your own risk.

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