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Old 04-30-2009, 07:35 PM   #1
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No seriously, what indeed HAVE I done?

I got this recipe for homemade cider from a friend:

Use 2L bottle to brew it in.
Sterilise bottle with hot water and camden tablet
Pour in slightly less than 2L of cloudy carton juice (not concentrate)
Add a few tspns of white sugar
Stir together
Add tspn of Yeast (Bakers yeast/bread yeast)
Stir in
Stretch plastic bag over lid of bottle and seal with rubber band
Leave for six days
Remove seal, siphon off everythign but the sediment into other bottle
Drink.

Now, I should have known better but I tried this anyway, and well... basically it came out smelling of hydrogen sulfide and tasted awful and had a foul chemical aftertaste and was still full of active yeast as far as I know and was really cloudy. I ended up binning it.

Anyway, given the resources I have (no demijons or proper tops or anything), how did this go wrong and how could I put it right next time? Would it ever have been possible to drink after 6 days without things going horribly wrong?

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Old 04-30-2009, 07:52 PM   #2
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Sounds like a prison hooch recipe. BTW, NOTHING is ready to drink in a week. If you really want to make hard cider & it's legal for you to do so, try this recipe: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/edwo...felwein-33986/ It's about as goof-proof as it gets & there have been well over 10,000 gallons of it made by people right here on this site. You'd be much better off investing a few dollars/pounds/euros in a carbouy, bung & airlock than by trying to ferment in 2 liter soda bottles. And stop using bread yeast, use a wine or ale yeast instead. If there is no local homebrew shop near you, there are several who will ship to you via mailorder, some advertise on this site. It's a great hobby! Good luck with your next batch. Regards, GF.

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Old 04-30-2009, 07:54 PM   #3
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Wrong yeast and not enough time? I say this from a beer brewers point of view. Do some reading on the cider forum. You will find it interesting and informative.

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Old 04-30-2009, 08:12 PM   #4
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prolly would have been drinkable in 4 more weeks - not very good mind you, but drinkable. I've used bakers yeast white sugar and applejuice before (way back in the day.) it's terrible compared to what I brew now... but you have to start some place I suppose.

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Where are you from, because if you are 18 as your profile says and you are american (not necessarily just checking) then this is illegal and the thread will be closed.

But as mentioned brewing takes longer then 6 days. You need to let it go for a lot longer, let the yeast fully settle out and transfer it longer down the road. Check out some recipes and read up on the proper processes so that you really know what you're doing, because as it stands, you're brewing prison hooch as mentioned.

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I'm in the UK so legal I think.

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OK just had to be sure we do get some american teens where laws are quite as booze friendly.

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Am I right in thinking drinking active yeast is bad? I belived so and tried to kill off the yeast the night before I drank (some of) the stuff with a crushed camden tablet. Was that a pointless thing to do? It didn't seem to stop sediment from keeping forming in the bottle (or perhaps that was dead yeasts? I don't know).

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I suspected the same, but note his spelling of the word "sterilize"
he's UK all the way... or a clever enough USA kid to know where limeys replace the "z" with an "s" in some words. (most american teens probably can't even spell "sterilize" let alone define it... sad truth I'm afraid...) I think limey kids can legally drink at what? 17-18?

anyway, to the OP - invest a few pounds in the right stuff (materials and tools) and you'll be on your way to making your own Tasty goodness in your own home. it's fun, easy, and there is something sublime about getting buzzed on something you made in your own home...

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Am I right in thinking drinking active yeast is bad? I belived so and tried to kill off the yeast the night before I drank (some of) the stuff with a crushed camden tablet. Was that a pointless thing to do? It didn't seem to stop sediment from keeping forming in the bottle (or perhaps that was dead yeasts? I don't know).

live yeast won't hurt you... might give you some stinky gas though.
I don't use stabilizers in my finished products - so technically all my drinks contain live yeast (dormant... but still alive)


the crushed cambden tablet is what made the stuff taste so awful.

it needs to set for 24 hours or so and outgas/dissipate the chemicals in the tablets before you even think about drinking it.

campden is used for a few things - but dropping out sediment isn't one of them.
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