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08-27-2012, 08:43 PM
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Plain ole hard cider
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I am able to get unpasturized apple cider from a local cider mill, i do not want to pasteurize it, my plan is to pitch a slurry/starter of either S-04/05 or Nottingham, with a bit of energizer and nutrient, immediatly and let it go...do the cider gurus see anything wrong with this? Any other yeast suggestions?
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08-27-2012, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by natureboy68
I am able to get unpasturized apple cider from a local cider mill, i do not want to pasteurize it, my plan is to pitch a slurry/starter of either S-04/05 or Nottingham, with a bit of energizer and nutrient, immediatly and let it go...do the cider gurus see anything wrong with this? Any other yeast suggestions?
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Nottingham and S-04 are both good choices. Add the yeast, put on the airlock, put it in a dark cool area ((60 - 70 degrees) and forget it for about 3 months. A hydrometer reading at the beginning and end would help to determine the alcohol content, But based on just raw cider you may end up with a 5 - 6% ABV product.
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08-27-2012, 11:20 PM
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Are campden tabs recommended?
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08-27-2012, 11:24 PM
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upstatemike you rock! thanks!
i dont want to add campden tablets, i want to keep it as natural as possible, however i do know that some people will sulphite it first to knock out any wild yeasties, to get it ready for the good yeasties
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08-27-2012, 11:40 PM
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upstatemike you rock! thanks!
i dont want to add campden tablets, i want to keep it as natural as possible, however i do know that some people will sulphite it first to knock out any wild yeasties, to get it ready for the good yeasties
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I respect that. I have yet to add any chems to my cider. Haven't gotten my hands on any unpasteurized juice yet, but I'd be tempted to take your approach.
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08-27-2012, 11:51 PM
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The commercial yeasts should be able to overtake any wild yeasts if you pitch while as fresh as possible.
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08-28-2012, 12:35 AM
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Nice plan, I'm hoping to be able to make hard cider from unpasteurized cider as well. Does anyone recommend adding any sweeteners to try to boost the alcohol content? I think I can get unpasteurized cider from cleanly raised apples from Busti Cider Mill.
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08-28-2012, 12:42 AM
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i understand you can use dextrose, or honey if you want a cyser, i will probably make two batches: regular cider and cyser with local honey
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Nice plan, I'm hoping to be able to make hard cider from unpasteurized cider as well. Does anyone recommend adding any sweeteners to try to boost the alcohol content? I think I can get unpasteurized cider from cleanly raised apples from Busti Cider Mill.
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08-28-2012, 01:22 AM
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I make a cyser with 5 gallons of cider and 3 pounds of honey. Usually gets close to 10% ABV. I ferment it dry, add some priming sugar and end up with a champagne like beverage. I've used Lavin 71b and a Lavin champagne yeast. Both worked well. This fall I'm planning on trying a Belgian yeast to see if it adds some spiciness. Not sure if I'll go with just cider or add the honey.
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08-28-2012, 03:45 AM
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I make a cyser with 5 gallons of cider and 3 pounds of honey. Usually gets close to 10% ABV. I ferment it dry, add some priming sugar and end up with a champagne like beverage. I've used Lavin 71b and a Lavin champagne yeast. Both worked well. This fall I'm planning on trying a Belgian yeast to see if it adds some spiciness. Not sure if I'll go with just cider or add the honey.
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Three cheers for Belgian yeast! I didn't let mine go to dryness but it was a big hit with those I shared it with.
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