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Old 11-08-2009, 01:51 PM   #1
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I brewed a 4 gallon batch of Graff 3 weeks ago. I sulfited my cider 24 hours before I brewed. I racked into the secondary yesterday and man was it stinky. Like rotten eggs or spoiled cheese. It tastes good and is very clear. Is the smell normal? I'm guessing it is hydrogen sulfide I am smelling. Any thing I can do, or is the batch ruined?

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Old 11-08-2009, 02:11 PM   #2
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Perfectly normal....Look up Rhino Farts on here. HBT search= "Rhino Farts"

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Old 11-08-2009, 02:43 PM   #3
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I think mine is pretty well done fermenting. Gravity reading was 1.002. I plan on letting it sit in the secondary for probably 3 weeks before I bottle. I'm just worried the smell won't go away now.

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I think mine is pretty well done fermenting. Gravity reading was 1.002. I plan on letting it sit in the secondary for probably 3 weeks before I bottle. I'm just worried the smell won't go away now.
Did you reaad the Rhino fart threads I linked to????

If you did you would be less worried. If we didn't have a cute nickname for it do you think we would think it was a serious issue?

The thing to remember though is that if you are smelling or tasting this during fermentation (AND THAT INCLUDES SECONDARY) not to worry. During fermentation all manner of stinky stuff is given off (ask lager brewers about rotten egg/sulphur smells, or Apfelwein makers about "rhino farts,") like we often say, fermentation is often ugly AND stinky and PERFECTLY NORMAL.

It's really only down the line, AFTER the beer has been fermented (and often after it has bottle conditioned even,) that you concern yourself with any flavor issues if they are still there.

I think too many new brewers focus to much on this stuff too early in the beer's journey. And they panic unnecessarily.

A lot of the stuff you smell/taste initially more than likely ends up disappearing either during a long primary/primary & secondary combo, Diacetyl rests and even during bottle conditioning.

If I find a flavor/smell, I usually wait til it's been in the bottle 6 weeks before I try to "diagnose" what went wrong, that way I am sure the beer has passed any window of greenness.

Fementation is often ugly, smelly and crappy tasting in the beginning and perfectly normal. The various conditioning phases, be it long primary, secondarying, D-rests, bottle conditioning, AND LAGERING, are all part of the process where the yeast, and co2 correct a lot of the normal production of the byproducts of fermentation.

Lagering is a prime example of this. Lager yeast are prone to the production of a lot of byproducts, the most familiar one is sulphur compounds (rhino farts) but in the dark cold of the lagering process, which is at the minimum of a month (I think many homebrewers don't lager long enough) the yeast slowly consumes all those compounds which results in extremely clean tasting beers if done skillfully.

Ales have their own version of this, but it's all the same.

If you are sampling your beer before you have passed a 'window of greeness" which my experience is about 3-6 weeks in the bottle, then you are more than likely just experiencing an "off flavor" due to the presence of those byproducts (that's what we mean when we say the beer is "green" it's still young and unconditioned.) but once the process is done, over 90% of the time the flavors/smells are gone.

Of the remaining 10%, half of those may still be salvageable through the long time storage that I mention in the Never dump your beer!!! Patience IS a virtue!!! Time heals all things, even beer:

Long story short....I betcha that smell/flavor will be long gone when the beer is carbed and conditioned.

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I typically cold crash at 1.020, and even then when there are off flavors (like sulfur, feces, rhino fart, whatever you want to call it) they go away with time. Of course I prefer it when it comes out ready to drink after crashing, but sometimes you just have to wait it out.

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