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03-26-2009, 09:07 PM
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mold?
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i started this cider 3/1 and a few days ago this showed up. what is it and how can i get rid of it. i dont notice any wierd smell or anything. its 3 gal of apple juice, 1/2 gal cherry juice, 2 cans of concntrate, 1#brown sugar and nottingham yeast.

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03-26-2009, 09:30 PM
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That is a bacterial pelicle formation...
lacto maybe? did you sanatize?
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03-26-2009, 10:39 PM
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You might be able to rack out the cider from underneath the pellicle and save the majority of the batch. Worth a try!
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03-27-2009, 12:52 AM
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yea i sanatized, but i drew a sample about a week before that...curosity killed the cat i guess. do you think racking from under would work? if i added camden or something could that kill iit? i dunno, i guess ill look that up.
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03-27-2009, 12:53 AM
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oh yea, thats the same stuff that sours lambics right?
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03-27-2009, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benl560
oh yea, thats the same stuff that sours lambics right?
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I think so - it sure looks like the intentional innoculations I see in the Lambic forum...
to the original poster - so I'm guessing you didn't sanitize your wine thief or racking cane you drew the sample with?
badness... I'm interested in what you might have done wrong so I can avoid making the same mistake. learn from someone else's misfortune as it were...
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I'd reccomend you also post the photos in the sanitation fourm (and maybe even the lambic forum) -someone with more experiance in infections (intentional or not) may have some advice beyond carefuly racking out from under the pellicle for you. if it is a bacteria infection (and I'm pretty sure thats what you have there) racking may not work -some bacterias will fully invade the liquid, kinda like a yeast -(unlike a mold which usually floats on top)
good luck... 
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Drinking: "All Apple" Apfelwein, Mixed Berry Country wine, Blueberry Belgian White ale.
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Last edited by Snuffalupagus; 03-27-2009 at 06:04 PM.
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03-27-2009, 07:52 PM
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yea.. i sanitized my baster. its wierd though, i got a sample from my pilsner right before that and its fine...tastes like beer with no film. maybe i sat the baster down between the pilsner and the cider and didnt pay attention to it. im hoping it still tastes good sour or not.
youre confirming my thoughts on the bacteria though. ive wanted to get into some lambic territory and read more about it, now i may have to.
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03-29-2009, 02:29 AM
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I dont know HOW they do it, you gotta have brass balls to purposely do that to any of your brews... id cry into it, maybe that will kill it?
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03-30-2009, 03:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beau815
I dont know HOW they do it, you gotta have brass balls to purposely do that to any of your brews... id cry into it, maybe that will kill it?
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Cry into it? that is funny as hell
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03-30-2009, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beau815
I dont know HOW they do it, you gotta have brass balls to purposely do that to any of your brews... id cry into it, maybe that will kill it?
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are you a gypsy?
only Gypsy tears will heal the sick, didn't they teach you anything in school? 
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Drinking: "All Apple" Apfelwein, Mixed Berry Country wine, Blueberry Belgian White ale.
comming to a carboy near you...
Redhook ESB clone
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