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Old 11-05-2009, 02:54 PM   #1
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Hello,

I've got 6 carboys going of cider. One with champagne yeast and sugar added. ONe with wine yeast and sugar added. One with no yeast and sugar added.

And three with no yeast or no sugar. Of these three I'm hoping to add honey to make cyser towards the end of fermentation.

I've got two questions:

1) I meant to add the honey to make cyser before fermentation but did not have the honey. It's been 1 1/2 to 2 wees since fermentation has started. Can I still add the honey to make cyser? If so when would be the best time to add it? Now, or when fermenation is complete?

2) I havn't added yeast nutrient to any of the carboys though I meant to. Is it too late? (fermentation has been going for 1 1/2 to 2 weeks) Is yeast nutrient nessessary. Should I add any at this point?

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Old 11-05-2009, 03:22 PM   #2
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1) If you add honey, my experience is that it is best to do it as early in the ferment as possible - however not all yeasts ferment out well with honey. Which ones are you using and what type of honey?

2) dont add nutrient unless you want your ciders to ferment out very dry with very little (if any) residual sugar

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Old 11-05-2009, 04:29 PM   #3
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1) add it now while still fermenting

2) With table sugar or honey you might need it. Add it if it is still in first half of ferment (SG+FG/2) and if you add honey, but be careful it will release a lot of CO2 and might overflow if you don't have any headspace.

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Old 11-05-2009, 09:37 PM   #4
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I don't know what kind of honey but I'm just using wild yeasts

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I've never added honey or sugar to wild yeast ferments, but it would probably work OK as long as you add it after the ferment has got established but before its too far along - say within the first 10 points of the ferment. What is the current sg? You might even pick up some interesting wild yeasts from the honey if you started with the honey at the beginning of the ferment

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Old 11-14-2009, 02:17 PM   #6
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I don't have a sg reading at the moment but I will try to get one soon. . . what do you mean by 10 points of the ferment?

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